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Mental illnesses as an Invisible disability Forum Discussion

User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit May 3rd, 2018

In Support of Mental Health awareness i figured id start doing discussions on the forum for disability how this will work every 2 days ill post a new question these are usually done in group support but i wish to include those who dont like group support and or it can get too fast for you etc.

once this discussion reaches its end ill start a new topic we can choose one together theirs 63 of them :)

so lets get started shall we in 2 days time ill post the next q

lets begin with an icebreaker shall we?

Icebreaker

What was the best thing that happened to you this past week?

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP May 10th, 2018

our next question everyone :)

Question 3 This session will focus on mental illnesses and how they are often invisible to others at first sight, no matter if they are chronic or not. What do you think makes it more difficult for others understand that you are suffering from a mental illness and how debilitating it is for you?

Taglist : @TheLifeOfKelli @richyShiny39 @IluvBiscuits @mariesd123 @Emily619 @KindSoul10 @PinkFloyd65 @caringShoulder14 remember you can answer previous questions if you choose too

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User Profile: Emily619
Emily619 May 10th, 2018

@CaringBrit

Aside from mental illnesses being more invisible than physical illnesses, it may be more frustrating for someone to deal with a mental illness because of the lack of understanding. Since they're not as visible, people tend to think their brains are "messed up," or generally don't understand how mental illnesses work on the internal perspective. I think stigma has a lot to do with it as well; however, it's been getting a lot better lately as stigma has been drastically decreasing in public attitudes from my observations smiley

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CaringBrit OP May 10th, 2018

@Emily619 yes exactly emily awesome response and certainly stigma is a huge part its still fairly big in my area still but dont see it that much either which is a good thing its decreasing in areas of the world

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TheLifeOfKelli May 10th, 2018

@Emily619 that part when you wrote messed up? Exactly! Ive been told these exact words Your life is RUINED!!!! from my own Mom. Thats just one example of how people see my mental illnesses.

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CaringBrit OP May 10th, 2018

@TheLifeOfKelli its horrible when we get phrases like that isn't it Kelli?

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TheLifeOfKelli May 10th, 2018

@CaringBrit Yes! Its like: you are not helping my mentality..... Its extra tough having mental & physical impairments at the same time, but Im not special and being treated so? :/

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CaringBrit OP May 10th, 2018

@TheLifeOfKelli i understand how you feel kelli just as a side question would you like to share what those are ?

love forum discussions as easier to personalise my responses to each participant

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TheLifeOfKelli May 12th, 2018

@CaringBrit Severe Panic Disorder with Agoraphobia. Since Im on the search for a more caring Spine Specialist & currently in pain? For the physical part, only want to say Spinal Degeneration right now....because Im about to throw up from pain and just typing my mental disabilities was.....tough to put out into the world.

If ANYONE here has agoraphobia too? Please talk to me. I know you are out there battling it too.

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CaringBrit OP May 14th, 2018

@TheLifeOfKelli awww no that's a lot your going through Kelli

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TheLifeOfKelli May 10th, 2018

@CaringBrit In my experiences? Because they cannot understand it fully....unless they actually have it.

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CaringBrit OP May 10th, 2018

@TheLifeOfKelli yes certainly relate to that

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caringShoulder14 May 12th, 2018

@CaringBrit i think the fact that they can't see anything physically wrong or actually know how we're feeling is what makes it so hard for others to understand

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CaringBrit OP May 12th, 2018

@caringShoulder14 yes indeed it does they feel we are fine just because they cant see it which leads to the stigma

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CaringBrit OP May 12th, 2018

I usually post these after midnight so this one is a tad later than usual but it has been 2 days since the last question so its time to move on your more than welcome to reply to the previous questions above for any new participants :) in 2 days time ill post the next question great responses everyone thus far :)

question 4 :

Assuming, and maybe through your experiences of knowing a lot of people do not understand or empathize with others suffering from mental illness, and this can lead to certain changes in behaviour patterns. One of those behaviour changes is called masking, which is someone hiding the way they feel in front of others. What are some of your experiences with masking? Or if you dont suffer from a mental illness, what do you think are some of the reasons for masking?

tagging those who have participated before : @TheLifeOfKelli @richyShiny39 @IluvBiscuits @mariesd123 @Emily619 @KindSoul10 @PinkFloyd65 @caringShoulder14

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TheLifeOfKelli May 12th, 2018

@CaringBrit Another good question for this forum.

Going into auto-pilot mode even around people I am comfortable with? That is something Im still battling. Thats just a tiny example though.

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CaringBrit OP May 13th, 2018

@TheLifeOfKelli not familiar with uto pilot mode is this auto masking ? even when comfortable around

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TheLifeOfKelli May 13th, 2018

@CaringBrit Incredibly hard to describe. Ill try though. The best way to describe my auto pilot mode....

First, I wasnt even aware I was even doing that until I started meditating in March.

Second, never really spoke up. (slightly vague, but I know what I mean)

Third, it was almost like leaving my body, almost like I was.....robotic like.

Fourth, only way I ever actually masked it? Was during the many many years I chose alcohol to be a normal functional human being. That was the ONLY way I masked it.

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CaringBrit OP May 13th, 2018

@TheLifeOfKelli ah i see ty fhankyou for explaining

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User Profile: PinkFloyd65
PinkFloyd65 May 13th, 2018

@CaringBrit Hesitation towards certain activities or actions, in more extreme cases secretiveness.

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CaringBrit OP May 13th, 2018

@PinkFloyd65 yes exactly

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User Profile: Emily619
Emily619 May 14th, 2018

@CaringBrit

I think some people can "mask" to try to assimilate into "normal" (non-symptom) behavior, especially if they're unfortunately being made of or stigmatized sad

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CaringBrit OP May 14th, 2018

@Emily619 yes that's for sure Emily I feel if I was stigmatized which I have been I too would try hide it not speak about it not trust

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CaringBrit OP May 14th, 2018

Next question guys its been 2 days already wow time flies, doesn't it? if any new participants more than welcome to go back to Question 1 and join in 2 :)

Question 5: What are the effects masking have on how we feel about people with myths, who are stereotypes around mental illness, or invisible illnesses in general?

Taglist of those who have participated before: @TheLifeOfKelli @richyShiny39 @IluvBiscuits @mariesd123 @Emily619 @KindSoul10 @PinkFloyd65 @caringShoulder14

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CaringBrit OP May 17th, 2018

seems question 5 had no participants thats fine you can still answer all the previous questions everyone :)

Question 6 :Do you think masking is an effective strategy for those with invisible illnesses to feel better rather than getting support?

tag list : @TheLifeOfKelli @richyShiny39 @IluvBiscuits @mariesd123 @Emily619 @KindSoul10 @PinkFloyd65 @caringShoulder14

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PinkFloyd65 May 17th, 2018

@CaringBrit Sometimes it can be, but sometimes it backfires if there is an outer more serious problem than just the mental illness.

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CaringBrit OP May 17th, 2018

@PinkFloyd65 yes certainly floyd great response

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Moosepotato123 May 17th, 2018

Making a

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Moosepotato123 May 17th, 2018

Talking to people who are actually nice and fun to be around.

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CaringBrit OP May 17th, 2018

@Moosepotato123 heyy moose welcome to the discussion welcome to join in on the question

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CaringBrit OP May 20th, 2018

wish to answer the previous questions please do however next question

Question 7: How would you explain your mental illness to someone who does not know anything about mental illness? What would you say to explain how it makes you feel, what effect it has on you and how much it impacts your life? What would you say?

taglist : @TheLifeOfKelli @richyShiny39 @IluvBiscuits @mariesd123 @Emily619 @KindSoul10 @PinkFloyd65 @caringShoulder14

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TheLifeOfKelli May 22nd, 2018

@CaringBrit oh my.... its almost impossible.

(sorry went MIA)

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CaringBrit OP May 23rd, 2018

@TheLifeOfKelli oh no almost impossible is this due to the stigma kelli?

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TheLifeOfKelli May 23rd, 2018

@CaringBrit Just a minuscule amount due to the stigma. Its MUCH more so that its INCREDIBLY frustrating to explain to people that do NOT have my disabilities.

People have tried to understand and its always a fail. Which is okay! I do NOT want the people asking me about the disabilities to actually HAVE my disabilities.

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CaringBrit OP May 24th, 2018

@TheLifeOfKelli ah yes very understandable that it can be more frustrating when they dont have it

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User Profile: IluvBiscuits
IluvBiscuits May 21st, 2018

I think the best way to describe mental illness to someone who is unknowing is to compare it to something that an everyday person has/can experience(d). I usually write poetry to describe feelings, especially anxiety. And the effect of it on my life I compare it to what it would be like without it.

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CaringBrit OP May 21st, 2018

@IluvBiscuits great way youd explain it there

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CaringBrit OP May 23rd, 2018

Question 8: What would make you feel more comfortable talking about your mental health struggles? Or if you do not suffer from a mental illness, what do you think would make someone more comfortable opening up and actually talking about their struggles with others?

your welcome to go back and answer all the previous questions for any new or old participants we have a few more questions after this one left then ill post 5 choices after the last question and see which you guys really want to do next

taglist : @TheLifeOfKelli @richyShiny39 @IluvBiscuits @mariesd123 @Emily619 @KindSoul10 @PinkFloyd65 @caringShoulder14

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User Profile: Emily619
Emily619 May 23rd, 2018

@CaringBrit

I'd say having a kind ear that's non-judgemental and more than happy to listen to what's going on smiley

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CaringBrit OP May 23rd, 2018

@Emily619 awesome yes a kind ear and non judgemental is definetly helpful :)

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TheLifeOfKelli May 23rd, 2018

@Emily619 THAT. Exactly that. Thats literally the BEST and ONLY way people can help. In my case anyways.

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CaringBrit OP May 24th, 2018

@TheLifeOfKelli i agree it is the best way to help

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creativeOak9590 May 23rd, 2018

@CaringBrit

I'm usually the most comfortable talking to people I know also have some mental health struggles of their own, because they're far less likely to be judgmental and far more likely to understand. For other people, it would help if they didn't try to offer "quick fix" ideas, like "just get more Vitamin D!"

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TheLifeOfKelli May 24th, 2018

@creativeOak9590 Agreed. :)

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CaringBrit OP May 24th, 2018

@creativeOak9590 i agree there great response

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@CaringBrit

A member made me feel so appreciated.

My time on 7Cups has been truly great!

I can finally help people without talking to anyone face-to-face

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CaringBrit OP May 23rd, 2018

@forcefulStrawberries4435 thats awesome :) so it helped that you were appreciated :)

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CasenoDeclan May 23rd, 2018

@forcefulStrawberries4435 that

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CaringBrit OP May 23rd, 2018

@CasenoDeclan indeed and welcome to join in on the forum discussion too :)

@CasenoDeclan

I agree with you! ❤❤❤

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