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TaranWanderer April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry I wanted to make this thread for us to talk easier, since feed posts are a bit tricky and limited cheeky I also wanted to try to help you find some more resources for you.

One thing I want to emphasize is that I really doubt you could get arrested for being suicidal. The most the police would do is hand you over to a hospital. But there's nothing 'arrest' worthy about it, there's no reason (or benefit) to send someone to jail.

Also, your therapist is supposed to help you through all of this, and sometimes she needs to full story in order to do that. If she doesn't know how bad things are for you right now, she might not be doing the right things to help. I know it's scary, especially when your family might find out, but sometimes telling people how you really feel is the best thing to do. It sounds like pretending to be okay hasn't really been helping lately, so it couldn't hurt to try being honest instead. If you're not okay, then you're just not okay, and you deserve to have help for that.

Recovery and overcoming suicidal thoughts is not an easy journey, sometimes you have to do some difficult or scary things for your own benefit, like opening up, like standing up for yourself and demanding people take you seriously and get the help you want, and just not giving up no matter what. But you know what, it's worth that fight. And you're worth the fight!

It will be okay, Hope! You can make it through this heart

You have your therapist, your school social worker, your friends, the listeners on here, the crisis lines, everyone is here to talk with you and to support you, you're not alone in this!

In case you don't have them, here are some resources for you:

-Mindfulness exercises (to help be calm and to relax)
-Guided imagery/meditation (also to help with being calm and to focus on positive things--so many more on youtube you can look for)
-Progressive Muscle Relaxation (also for calming down)
-Suicide hotlines: One site, Another site
-You can email the Samaritans, any time, no matter where you are, you can say anything you want and as much as you want, and someone will reply to you within the same day

Also remember:
-try not to be alone, go outside, stay with friends or people you trust, if you can
-do things that you enjoy and that make you happy (such as reading, writing, poetry, art, running, a warm bath, listening to music, etc)--try to keep a positive focus
-if you have a pet, spend time with them. If not, try going to a dog park, or visiting an animal shelter
-write a story about the life you would want if you could have any life you wanted, what would your happiest life look like?
-every time you hear a negative thought in your head, try saying the exact opposite, the most positive alternative you can think of. Say it in your head or say it out loud or write it down a hundred times!

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer

i love you alot just saying this made my day seeing this ... i really am struggling my brother is getting charged with manslaughter and it hurts because everyone is like saying itll be ok then my brother says itll be ok but i know it wont he is my rock and he is my world and i never wanted this ever for him he is so amazing he was just in the wrong place in the wrong time with the stupid ex he has... he is amazing i love him so much. it makes me so suicidal that i may not see him i think if i cant see him or talk why even be alive honestly. i just wish it was over but its not and he may be in prison for maybe 17 years ... i think of his son even tho he doesnt see him i know he wont have him and i know damn well that his mom wont let him see him now because he hurt someone badly but i love that little guy i havent seen him since he was 9 months old and he is maybe 3 now... my brother isnt like that. plus it feels like its a test for me to see if ill break and i gotta admit i broke and im down its not going to get better i know that i can remeber my brother coming to see me when i was in a hospital for suicide attempts and he loved me but his stupid ex mary was there and did all this stuff that was bad with him ....she did drugs and sold drugs and i want to say something to the police about what she does like karma but it wont work like that...because im not like that (right now). i cant predict what ill do in the next 10 minutes tbh. he promised me he will enver leave and he is gone for a while what will i do with him gone. have no one that is it. i really want some help but if i ask they will say no (community mental health) and say you just want to go back to the hospital but that isnt it i want to be with other people that is getting better and not like the people at the hospital that freak out and everyone is terrible i want to go so i have people i can connect with and get help with people my age and have others to talk to and stay on track while be watching because i dont trust myself... i know they will say no we are not paying for anything like that and there is nothing like that. i just want to have people that i can talk to my age that has problems but be with them and have help at the same time like a residential but the one i was at a long time ago was for like run aways and i dont run away. i think it would be good to get away.. honestly im proud of myself rn because i have not hurt myself or attmepted in the last 2 days... i keep thinking that i have a few weeks before im gone and on the 20th is when my grandma passed 2 years ago and it hurts i was in the hospital around this time in 2016. i try to not think about anything but it doesnt work it always brings me back to my pain with my brother and grandma ... i try coping skills like distracting and stuff in my dbt book (therapy) and it doesnt work i just want it to be ok and i know it wont.. like can i please just have some help what do i do buddy . can you help me somehow like maybe give me advice i know that isnt aloud i think but please for me help me with what i could do like with everything and your amazing just saying

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TaranWanderer OP April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry aw Hope, I'm so sorry to hear about your brother, he sounds really important to you and it makes sense that it's hard to not be able to see him! But you know, depending where you live, you may still be able to go visit him, and call him, write him letters, even if he goes to prison. And, there's always the possibility that he'll get a shorter sentence, because if he really is as good of a person as you say, and it was just his ex who was a bad influence, then I'm sure he will have good behaviour and that can mean being in for a shorter time! Going to prison is not going to be the end of the world, your brother is still there and he still cares about you and his family. Think, every person who is in jail has people who love them so much and miss them a lot, and they're all still holding on, waiting to see them again smiley He's not gone forever, will be able to get out at some point, and hopefully being away from his ex will be a good influence. He says it will be okay, so I would believe him! Let's give him something to really look forward to when he gets out: a wonderful sister!

About the community mental health, it's too bad that they may not offer help, that sounds like the opposite of their job! Do you think you could talk to your therapist (or the community health, or even look online yourself!) to see if there's any group therapy options for you in your community? Those kinds of setting are similar, where you are with people the same age as you, going through similar things, all there for each other to recover together. I know it's a bit different since you don't have people watching you, or you don't live there, but it's another option. I wonder if there are any "safe houses" too, I know those are also sometimes just for runaways, but some take in anyone who needs some extra help.

I'm super proud of you too, even with everything going on, you're still staying strong and keeping yourself safe!! That's amazing Hope :) I hope that you have much much longer than a few weeks, I know that a difficult time is coming up for you, but I'm confident that you can make it through. I'm sure your grandma would want you to remember the good times you had with her not the pain of her being gone, and to keep fighting, and to keep living, for her!

It's too bad that your dbt book hasn't been too helpful, sometimes just distracting ourselves isn't enough to make the feeling pass. Does your book have any exercises on challenging your thoughts? Maybe something more active would help you more, to take what you're feeling/thinking and work directly with it, rather than trying to make it pass.

What advice would I give..I think it's important to try to keep thinking about the positive things, even if you don't really believe it or if it takes a lot of effort. Think about how much you love your brother and want to see him again, rather than any time that he will be away. Think about the good memories you have of your grandma, instead of that she's gone. Think of anything good in your life, anything about life you like, it could be shows/movies, bands, friends, family members, nature, animals, anything at all. And focus on those things the best you can! And focus on your victories, all the days where you've felt better, the days where you stayed clean, those are so important and they happened because YOU made them happen! and that means you can make many more happen too, even better days laugh

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
i really dont know if my book has some. i was wondering if like groups and stuff cost money.. also i dont have a car and my parents would drive me and they work idk how that would work out but i want to say your so kind and sweet and so supportive that you so much you mean so much to me

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TaranWanderer OP April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry Hmm I guess it depends on the kind of group, if it's run by a therapist it might cost money, but I think there might be some free ones (or, depending on where you live, they might have a "sliding scale" policy to help with costs). About getting there..I'm sure your parents wouldn't mind if it was something that would help you, you know? (and, it might be held after work hours, if they are keeping in mind that people have jobs cheeky). If you have a public transit system, that could be an option too. It couldn't hurt to just see if there is anything in your area, and talk to your therapist/parents to see if they could make it work.

Since your book might not have some of those things, here is what I know about challenging thoughts smiley (maybe you have heard some of these through your therapist, but probably good review anyways)

This is a list of common "cognitive distortions" (also called "unhelpful thinking styles"), which are ways that our thoughts form that usually make us feel bad, it happens automatically, but it also means they're not true and you can reframe them!

This is a little workbook on challenging these thoughts, which means evalutating them and thinking how you could change it around.

This a worksheet where you can record the thoughts you have and what was going on when it happened, challenge them, and re-word it in a positive way

You can give those a try if you want something to work on that isn't just distraction, you could even bring them up to your therapist to see if she wants to work through them with you smiley

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
oml the congnitive distortions one im all of them ...

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TaranWanderer OP April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry haha I know about them for 2 reasons: I went to university for psychology, and I was also in therapy myself so these were the kinds of things my therapist used for me cheeky and don't worry about having all the cognitive distortions, almost everyone has all of them at some point or another! That's the reason that they're there, because they are so common smiley I have all of them too. It doesn't mean there's anything wrong, it's just a list of common ways our thoughts go (since our brains are always looking for the quickest or easiest answer, even if it's not right).

I hope some of this will be helpful for you, or at least may lead you to something that will be helpful smiley as for the kind of group..I guess just have a look to see what's available around you and what sounds like it would be what you're looking for. I think any type has the potential to be helpful, so it's just what you're comfortable with and what would work for you (such as time/place etc)

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
ive been in therapy since i was like 13 but i had a consuler in 4th grade and 5th cuz of sexual abuse and stuff but eh dont know if that counts she was just there to talk to me that is who i told what was happeneing to for asking a stupid question

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TaranWanderer OP April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry

It doesn't sound like a little kid smiley I still say "when I grow up" too! (and I'm 23 already cheeky will be 24 next month surprise) I think that would be awesome if you went into therapy or social work! To help people out, since you know what it's like...that's one of the best ways you can use your experience to make a positive difference smiley oh a double major sounds tough but at least they are related subjects! So maybe it wouldn't be too bad :) haha I can understand, it's tough when there's so many things you want to help with, I'm still trying to narrow it down myself :) I graduated about 2 years ago, but I'm trying to get into graduate school to get a Master's degree right now so...still planning on more school :)

I'm glad that you've had so many people to help you out throughout your life, I never saw anyone until university, because I felt I didn't deserve it or that it just wouldn't help, but I'm glad that I did eventually :) Hopefully they have been helpful to you for the most part!

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
your from canada im close to you then haha probably closer than you think tbh not gonna say tho cuz of privacy

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TaranWanderer OP April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry ohh that's interesting, we are the same age surprise you deserve that too Hope, you deserve happiness and wonderful things too :) and thank you so much, I'm so proud of you too! My little sister didn't graduate high school, but she is doing alright :) school isn't everything, and there will always be ways to help others even without school. So you don't have to put too much pressure on yourself! I have confidence that you will get through this rough time and lead a positive life laugh oh that's neat, it's nice that we are close smiley don't worry, you don't have to say anything you're not comfortable with

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
i have like 15 younger cousins and maybe 17 older ones

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TaranWanderer OP April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry oh wow that's a lot of cousins! surprise I only really have 2 cousins haha. So many people that love you and want you to be okay smiley Do you get along with them alright?

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
well my cousin that is 2 years younger than me her name is jolyn she is like my best friend and sister all in one she is literally like my life rn i love her so much and my cousin breezy she is my babygirl she is 7 and my older ones we arent really close i dont feel like they like me or im a burden to them and my baby cousins i adore them carter my cousin he is 3 he is the best thing ever he is so cute and he says oh my lanta instead of saying omg because he thinks its swearing my moms side is a christian i am not tho i dont know what i am ... but my other cousins that are younger are all my babies

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TaranWanderer OP April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry aww they all sound so sweet heart even if you aren't too close to your older ones, I'm sure you're not a burden to them, maybe they just don't know you enough or are too busy doing their own thing. But all the little ones sound so cute, I'm sure it's nice seeing them :) and jolyn sounds just wonderful, it's great that you can have someone so important and close to you in your family! (it's okay, most of my family is religious too but I'm not really, but I think it works out alright most of the time smiley )

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
i go to church with my aunt so i can spend time with her and the little ones and so i can see hayley she is like a mom to me since i never really had a mom that cared or was actually there i have my mom and she is im not even going to say how she is i love her but god that person has caused me pain ... my step mom is rude and doesnt give a crap about anyone except my dad and my 2 sisters im just another person to her

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TaranWanderer OP April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry aw it sounds like Haley is a great person smiley I'm happy you have someone like that! It's too bad that your mom hasn't been too kind to you :( and neither has your step-mom...I can relate, my step-dad never cared about anyone but himself and my mom, it's not very fun to have someone treat you like that :( but you know, it sounds like you have found others that do treat you right and who you can have a great relationship with :)

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
i feel like im going to cry ... i feel like crap and i want to cry .. today i ate like 15 cubes of cheese and grapes and i feel bad for some reason it makes me feel bad and i drank too much and my feelings inside are taking over

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TaranWanderer OP April 12th, 2018

@imsorryitry Aw it's okay to cry, Hope, there's nothing wrong with crying :) I'm sorry to hear you're feeling so bad though :( I'm happy that you got yourself to eat a little bit though, even if it made you feel bad, you still did something that was good for you in the long run. You don't ever have to feel bad for eating, I know that those feelings just happen sometimes, but I hope you can remind yourself that there's nothing wrong with it and that it was a good thing for you. You did a good thing by eating, Hope!

Did you want to try one of those guided imagery videos, or mindfulness exercises, since your feelings are starting to be a bit overwhelming? Sometimes they can help centre you and have your emotions settle down a little :)

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Hope7879 April 12th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
ok i will ... i feel crazy i really do

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry hey Hope heart what's been going on today to make it so bad?

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Hope7879 April 23rd, 2018

@TaranWanderer
another person left .. my boyfriend ... and just more pain with it makes me want to never trust anyone ... plus on saturday i burned my arm or shoulder part till it blistered on blisters and i popped the blisters and ripped the very bottom blister but i liked it more than cutting or just the same amount

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry aw I'm so sorry to hear that Hope :( did he give a reason for leaving?

I know it hurts, but I think there's still plenty of reasons to trust people, you know? I don't think the relationships you've had so far have been a fair representation of all the different kinds of relationships you're going to have in your lifetime. I remember people being pretty flaky when I was younger, but things get better as you age and mature (and, the people around you mature too).

I'm sorry to hear that you burned yourself :( You should try putting some aloe on them, it really helps burns to heal and to feel better. Even if you liked it in the way that you 'like' self-harm, try your best to instead practice self-care, to treat your wounds rather than use them for pain.

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Hope7879 April 23rd, 2018

@TaranWanderer
he said its for the best since he cant talk much anymore ... it tore me apart and what if i dont want my wound to heal or if i want a bigger scar

I LOVE YOUUUheart

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry aw well, I'm sure it is for the best in the long run then, even though it really hurts right now. If he can't find the time for you, then you're better without him. You deserve someone who will be able to find time for you, to talk with you, to push through the good and bad with you. And I know you'll find someone like that in the future :) I never dated until I was 22! You have a whole lifetime and a whole planet full of people to find the one who matches you and who makes you happy and who makes everything worth it laugh

I know you might not want to heal, or you might want a bigger scar, but those are just temporary feelings, you know? Those 'wants' are based on your hurt feelings right now, and I'm sure future you will not want those things. I'm sure the future you would be pretty grateful if you took care of yourself, as best you can, even when you don't want to. Plus, sometimes being nice to ourselves specifically when we want to be mean to ourselves can help us feel better! Maybe just give it a try to see how it goes :)
I love you too Hope! I really want you to be safe heart

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Hope7879 April 23rd, 2018

@TaranWanderer

you know seeing you on today made my day better. you make me really happy and you may not realize that but your like a little sparkle that everyone loves your so bright inside and out your amazing and i want you to know that your very special to me ... i just feel bad because i feel like i make you sad or upset or something i just worry about that

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry aww you're sooo sweet Hope 💖 💕 I think you're equally amazing and I think you're capable of brightening people's day and to show so much love to others, you're very special to me too laugh You don't ever have to worry about that! You've never made me upset or sad, sometimes I worry about you and I feel like I wish I could make you see how amazing you are and how important you are, but it's never something you should feel bad about or worried about. You're just expressing yourself and you're being honest with me, I'd much rather have that than to have you pretend or hide your feelings smiley

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Hope7879 April 23rd, 2018

@TaranWanderer

your a gem thank you .. i hope one day i love myself too or see how great i am i really hope ... i just want to know how i can fix that would i have to get therapy or would dbt help with that....and one day i really hope to meet you even tho your probably like hope you are crazy ... cuz iam but anyway.. your the best taran i really do love you ... i kind of think of you as a parent/ therapist you would be great at both heart

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry I know you will be able to see how great you are one day! I think it will probably take a combination of things, such as therapy, getting some good support network (such as with Hayley, imagine having a bunch of Hayleys all there for you laugh), a change in how you view yourself and your life and the world around you (which is usually part therapy and partly self-discovery), some patience, a lot of hard work and effort from you..but, all these things combined with time can do wonderful things :) haha I don't think you're crazy cheeky not at all. I am honestly pretty boring, quiet, and super shy in person blush I love you too Hope :) that's really nice of you to say, it means a lot to hear that! I hope I would be a good therapist...I have never thought too much about being a parent before, I wonder if I would be good :o I think you'd be great at a job that helps people too!

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Hope7879 April 23rd, 2018

@TaranWanderer
id love to be a dbt trauma bsed therapy that works with teens also want to be infant mental healh therapist dont know if you know what that is it is what my therapist renee is pretty much ... id love to be like her ... i said i want a baby and she said no hope then we would have to do infant mental health too im like haha yea ok but im not willing to go throught the process of getting a child ...god cant do that... but haha over the weekend i told my dad i want to go to a college party he is like no hope. he was talking about colleges and he said yea no you arent going to a party your almost 17 you realize you could get into ALOT of trouble if you got caught at a party with college kids with alcohol ... just thought of that ... but yea thats what my future could be if i try lor want but i dont think ill get better i really dont think

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry I think it would be totally possible for you to do those kinds of therapy in the future! Maybe having a baby now would be too difficult, but I'm sure you could in the future, when you feel more stable and confident in yourself :) There's no rush there at all, so you shouldn't be worrying about that for now. I think your dad made a good choice to say you shouldn't go. I think college parties aren't the best atmosphere to be in, especially when you're underage. Not just getting in trouble legally (and also, they could get in trouble too!) but also it might be a negative environment for you mentally, when you're not feeling the best. (but of course, I'm a bit biased since I don't drink and never have, so things about alcohol just make me uncomfortable and I think they're kinda dumb haha). You know, I never thought I would get better either, but I did (well, still a bit on the journey there, but definitely better!) so you know, I really really believe in you and your ability to live a happier life :)

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Hope7879 April 23rd, 2018

@TaranWanderer

thank you so much i still dont get why your nice to me i know you have told me but why im not nice or special im not really like nice like this is life really im actually kind of rude sometimes ... i dont like drinking but i have done a pill or 2 but only 2 ... it made me chill but i did it cause i was very upset and most of the people in my school does drugs ... i dont think i should do them because i get addicted to things easily if i like them

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry whaat, of course you're nice Hope! sometimes when we're going through a tough time, we end up being rude, but it doesn't mean you're not a nice person, you know? A lot of people at my school did drugs too, and my little sister, but I've always thought it was pointless and stupid, I hope you can continue to not fall into peer pressure. There are much better ways to handle what you feel. I'm glad you recognize that you have an addictive personality, I think I'm the same way too. I get 'addicted' to things that hurt me, so I try my best to stay away since I know I would just take it too far. I think you'll be able to do the same to keep yourself safe :)

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Hope7879 April 23rd, 2018

@TaranWanderer
taran i was wondering if you could help me i want to show you something its kind of personal but i trust you and i have a really hard time with people irl talking about it but i wrote it out and i was wondering if you could help and yea its aboutsexual abuse its just been on my mind alot lately and its a part of my story but if you dont want me to share i wont dont know what is triggering to you

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry no worries, that topic isn't triggering for me, you're welcome to share what you wrote with me :)

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Hope7879 April 23rd, 2018

@TaranWanderer

ok so its events but yea its kind of embarrasing and im ashamed of it like alot ...but yea im actually terrified to tell people i love or know because they will judge me and its like anxiety and so embarrasing ugh but here i kind of want to cry but yea

when i was very young i maybe 5 my babysitter he was my best friend too i wanted his love because i didnt really have my parents or my biological moms love so i needed some love... one day we were at my house and i was watching tv and he would usually give me what i wanted candy and ramen noodles however they are called... but then at 6 that is when my dad told me we lived in that house but i remember 8 cuz that is the first thought i had that people were different then me ... but at 6 i was eating my food and it was close to midnight and he was touching my thighs i was fine with it i guess and i let him touch me because i thought it was normal and i went to bed i had my underwear on and i remember waking up to him taking them off and he was on top of me he then had oral sex with me i think he raped me i dont know that part is shady i think he did but i dont know if that would count as rape with the oral but yea then i tried to kick him away from me and i remember freaking out and crying i went to the bathroom and he said next time we will use baby powder dont know what that means but yea still have yet to figure why he said that but then the next time we were in the living room and he went out to smoke so i went with him because i always was with him and i talked to him but he this time made me touch him he said it was soft so i did i dont remember if he said it is soft like a stuff animal but i think he said that then later on that week or the next time i remember his making me take my clothes off and he would take pictures of me and make me spread my legs and take pictures of me ... he would teach me poker and stuff like that and always gave me candy later on sometime when he got the money then when he went back to my grandmas to live in the summer we were swimming he and me went swimming then i took me bathing suit off or he did idk but he then touched me and i went with it because it is normal then but then he would take me into the garage and he would touch me sometimes.. i would have to watch him take his clothes off and he would make me watch him through the bathroom door crack and he would say or i just thought act like your wanting to go to the bathroom. so i would and my baby cousin would be in her crib and my other cousin i told a long time ago before then and told her to swear to not tell and she never did so we were in the room and he would touch my thighs and i would be under the blanket and he would touch me too. we would have the door shut because he was the baby sitter we acted like it was normal i never really told for a long time because i knew he would be mad or hurt me i think it would at least and i told and the same day i told the consuler at school i said i told and he looked at me and told me something not sure what it was but yea then at maybe at 11 or 12 a year after it stopped me and my dads friend son i let him touch me because i thought it made me feel special and i let him because it was a normal thing for me i guess but yep that is what has happened when i was 14 a guy in my school still is we were in the library and i let him touch my thigh but i didnt want him to touch my private so i moved my chair a little but he still did and i moved his hand and let the library i guess i thought love was sexual stuff idk like not now but idk its hard to explain... nothing but self hate rn

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry aww Hope, there's nothing that you need to feel ashamed about or embarrassed about. No one should judge you for what happened. You were only a child, none of this is your fault. Your babysitter was wrong, what he did to you was wrong. But it's not your fault, and it shouldn't have happened. You didn't deserve it, you did nothing wrong. It's understandable that you didn't want to tell, it's a hard thing to say at any age, and even moreso when you're little. It's easy to be scared of what might happen. But, I'm glad that you were able to tell someone about it. And I'm glad you weren't hurt when he found out. It's also completely understandable to feel special or like that's what love is, having people touch you in these ways. But I hope you can learn more about your value, that you deserve to be comfortable and consenting to all actions in a relationship, that no one should do anything to you that you don't want. That's really what love is, to have mutual trust and respect, not just one-way. You're special and loved because of who you are, not because of what others do to you. Developing healthy ideas of relationships can be tough after childhood sexual abuse, but I think you're on your way :) you stood up for yourself, you told the truth of what happened, and that's a great start. You did a good thing by telling someone. And I'm really proud of you for getting the courage to write all of this to me. You're a wonderful person, Hope. There's nothing to hate about yourself, you haven't done anything wrong. You're a good person, who had some awful people treat you badly. But that doesn't make you bad, and it doesn't mean you deserved it at all. You deserve so much better than what happened. And I really hope you never have to go through that again heart thanks so much for opening up to me, Hope 💓

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Hope7879 April 23rd, 2018

@TaranWanderer
i dont tell people because its bad and it makes me feel really weird and anxious and worthless like how did i think that was normal
i didnt say anything because i was so terrified of even telling the counselor so i didnt say anything to the cops so it was my fault it was brought to the attention of the cops so i just said nothing ... he was arretsed but wasnt like actually arrested he was just taken away i look for the guys facebook sometimes to see him because he made me feel like i was loved plus he actually care at some point so ... it is just terrible

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TaranWanderer OP April 23rd, 2018

@imsorryitry Well, you don't have to tell people if you're not comfortable, but you shouldn't feel worthless or weird about it. It was a bad thing that happened to you, but it doesn't mean you're bad. You shouldn't be so hard on yourself, you were only a child, how could you know that it wasn't normal, when he was convincing you that it was. That's not your fault! You most likely thought it was normal because you didn't know differently, you were so little. This is your babysitter's fault alone. It was not your responsibility to recognize it was wrong, that's on him. He was the older person, all responsibility is on him. You can't be at fault for being scared to say anything. It's a scary thing! You can't blame yourself for feeling scared.


I can understand that he made you feel loved and cared about, but the reality is...he didn't care about you. Not even a little. If he really did, he wouldn't have done those things to you. He wouldn't have even thought about doing those things to you if he truly cared about you. That's not what loving someone or caring about someone is about. He did things he knew was wrong, he did things he knew he shouldn't. He hurt you on purpose, for his own selfish reasons. Someone who really cares about you would never do that to you. No matter how much it seemed like he did. You deserve 10000 times better than him.
It is an awful thing that happened, and things like that can stick with you or shape your view of yourself and relationships...but you're not terrible, Hope. Not even how you feel about it is terrible. Everything you did and how you feel is 100% understandable. There's not a single drop on blame on you. You're innocent in this. You're just so much better than him and those others who disrespected you. You have the power to move past their actions and to live as a better person than they could ever be :)

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Hope7879 April 24th, 2018

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taran im scared like really scared i have been really anxious last night i had a panick attack today in ther morning and one at 12 am and the guy that touched me when i was 14 is getting in trouble for touching a girl and it was after i told my therapist last week that this happened im kind of scared... what if its me idk what to do what if people know it was me or if the teachers know im scared because right after i told her hasnt been here and he is in trouble for something alone those lines for touching a girl without her consent

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TaranWanderer OP April 24th, 2018

@imsorryitry To be honest, it sounds like he's just a bad person and probably did it to another girl too, and she told someone about it. But really, who he did it to and how they found out isn't the important part. What's important is that he did something bad, and now he's not getting away with it anymore. That's a good thing, Hope! In things like this, no one should care about who told or who he did it to, and really, there's no reason anyone should think it was you. It sounds like a coincidence, really. Thinking about all these 'what ifs' isn't going to do you any good. So, just try to leave it. It doesn't matter "what if". It matters that hopefully he will never do this to another girl again.

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Hope7879 April 24th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
a guy at my school commitied suicide last night ... depressed about it i didnt know him by his name but i may know him it hurts because i think about doing it all the time we just found out he died last night

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TaranWanderer OP April 24th, 2018

@imsorryitry oh I know what that's like, Hope, it's a hard thing to deal with even if you didn't know the person very well :( I went through a few deaths while in high school, but I think in all the sadness, it tends to bring people together. The people who can understand what he was going through get to see the love others have, and usually a lot of compassion comes out of this. It's tough when you think it could have been you, but you know..the best things you can do when things like this happen is to listen and take in all the emotions and reactions, and use it to keep pushing forward. I'm sure he wouldn't want anyone to be feeling the way he was, and I'm sure he wouldn't want anyone to follow in his footsteps. I'm really sorry to hear about his passing :( let yourself grieve and process, and I'm sure the whole school is right there with you

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Hope7879 April 24th, 2018

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i dont have a reason to grieve or be sad i dont know why i should be sad ..... i dont get why people live or like why im living because everyday we have shit thrown at us and we have to deal with it like if i could i would die rn or try but no i cant because it would seem like im an attention seeker or just a coward but really there is no point in life if we all suffer

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TaranWanderer OP April 24th, 2018

@imsorryitry well I mean, it's sad anytime someone dies, it's a sad thing and that's all the reason you need. But of course, it's not like you're obligated to be sad, I just meant that if that's how you're feeling then there's nothing wrong with it...
There's a lot in life that's worth living, that's worth the suffering. Sure there's a lot of tough things, but there's a lot of good things as well! Those are the reasons to live. And really..does there need to be a great important point to life? can't life just, be? I don't ask my dogs what's the point of them living, they just are and they do their best and they try to make others happy and they try to have fun and that's all that matters. And you know, suffering allows relief to happen, it allows the good times to feel even better, it helps us learn, it allows people to come together and to be humbled and to learn how to support each other and how to have compassion, and it just makes for a good story. Would you want to read a book or watch a movie with no suffering, where everyone gets what they want and no one is ever hurt and there's no conflict at all..that would be pretty boring. Because we suffer, we can be better people and we can be better together.

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Hope7879 April 24th, 2018

@TaranWanderer
s i turned it into a positive experience i told others to stay strong im always open to talk and to keep their head up and stuff like that and i put that on stickers and gave them to everyone and im helping people in art it just is sad my friend is crying and i cried and broke sticks but thats it and i was going to hurt myself but no i had a sister well foster sister that drank bleach in front of me pretty much well i didnt watch her but she drank it then we heard her puking and falling and we rushed in and she was on the ground and i helped my foster mom and said to call poison control and they did ... she is alive but she went to juvenile detention aftert was scary that night i was going to stab myself and slit my wrists but i didnt she did that before i could

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TaranWanderer OP April 24th, 2018

@imsorryitry That's good, to try to spread some support and positivity. Just make sure you're taking care of yourself too, not just others :) It's okay to cry, I'm glad you haven't hurt yourself. I'm sorry to haer about your foster sister, how long ago was that? Why did this event come to your head?

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Hope7879 April 24th, 2018

@TaranWanderer

decemeber last year..

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Hope7879 April 24th, 2018

@TaranWanderer

the thought of someone killing theirself

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TaranWanderer OP April 24th, 2018

@imsorryitry ah I see...well, maybe it would be best to try to focus your thoughts on something else, as I know sometimes this can be a difficult topic for you, since you know what it's like to have those feelings. Do you think that would help?

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TaranWanderer OP May 15th, 2018

@imsorryitry I'm really sorry, Hope, I don't know what's going on, I still can't see any new posts on here, not even my own :( I'm worried about you though, I could see the first few words in the notification (something like "I carved..."), I hope you are staying safe heart I hope these posts fix themselves so I can read them...

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Hope7879 May 29th, 2018

hey taran

you good? i wish i could talk to you or hear your voice. im just having a terrible time. im keeping it all in. i dont know why its like this it shouldnt be ... just thoughts i was looking for cleaner in the bathroom at school to drink it. i saw renee today... ive just been feeling so terrible like angry at my mom and dad and at everyone i shouldnt be crying ughhh people will see ..idk what is wrong

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TaranWanderer OP June 11th, 2018

@imsorryitry heyy Hope :) hopefully tagging you here helps you find our forum again :) I know the app can be tricky sometimes!

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TaranWanderer OP July 14th, 2018

@imsorryitry hi Hope yes we can talk!!! I'm so sorry it took me so long to see your post, it's been a super busy week and I hadn't even logged into 7 cups until today 😢 (also, that's great news about your brother!! 💕 even if it's not all the way over, he's still there with you 😊) how have you been?

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TaranWanderer OP August 1st, 2018

@imsorryitry love you too Hope!!! 💓 keep fighting, never give up 😻 you didn't hurt me at all, I'm sorry I haven't been on very much lately (I just moved across the country!! It was a lot of work and still a bit more to do but exciting too 😊). Nothing has to end, I know my adorable little sister is strong and can make it through. If you just take it one step at a time, that's enough for me 💝

How have things been going for you? Anything you want to talk or rant about?

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