Please help me understand
I'm seeing someone that has bpd, we are long distance and it's all very fairly new. He has been open and honest about his bpd, anxiety and depression. We talk daily, messages calls and video calls for hours.
I saw him recently and everything was OK. He would say he loved me etc but the last day I was there he was distant.
He was open about it and basically said hey I know I'm being distant, this is on me not anything you have done. So I was like ok then
But since I got home he's barely spoken to me.
He messaged to say he loved me then a few hours later I get another message saying he needs time alone cos he can feel his mental health getting worse.
I told him that I was there for him if he needed anything. That was ignored tol the next day.
He sends message saying that he's having a mental breakdown and wants to be left alone and part of him never wants us to speak ever again.
So obviously I'm pretty upset cos I love the guy.
I told him I was sorry for whatever I had done.
He came back with....you've done nothing it's just my mental health.....
So I've said back to him, don't cut me off when your feeling like this and I'll give him all the space he needs and anything else and that I love him.
He's looked at the message but not replied.
I'm a mess right now. I have depression and anxiety myself. I'm struggling cos I don't want to lose him and just don't know what to do.
So my question is......is this what normally happens?? I'm new to bpd and I don't fully understand it all. What should or shouldn't I say?
I'm so lost and hurting so bad.
Hi,
I have BPD and I am in relationship (two years now). And I have to say it is so hard for the person to have relationship with "us". We are very unstable and we just can switch in one second... I wanted to break up maybe 4 times with him and I said it. He always said, that it is okay, we will wait few weeks, if you still want to break up, we will.
For us is relationship very hard, because we are often somewhere between hating and loving. Most of us can't stay in relationship.
I have to say I have long distance too and for me it is way better, because we can see when I am in mood. We are together few days, I am so tired at the end. And yes, sometimes I can't respond for days, week... But deeply I know, he is there. He is waiting, because he love me you know?
I can't say how much I am gratefull to have person, who is so patient, kind. So be that one. I recomend book "I hate you - don't leave me."
At the end... Be carefull. We can be really bad on people and you may end in really toxic relationship. We just don't get it.
@determinedBlueberry3595
I'm so glad you have someone who's been able to be there for you. And that sounds like kind advice to suggest looking at the people you really appreciate and trying to emulate some of the things that you cherish about them. 💜
That also sounds helpful that you're able to recognize that your feelings switch between those extremes of love/hate, it can be difficult for other people, and being able to have that space/distance to wait for things to settle before acting/speaking can avoid a lot of chaos.
I am broken just now
One minute he never wants to talk to me again,
Then he's says that if we want this to work out we both have things to work on, which I agreed.
Then not even an hour later he's said he's sorry can't do it and has blocked me.
I'm broken I don't know what to do.
I am so sorry to hear that...
Maybe he just wasn't ready for it, it is hard to say. For me is relationship the hardest thing to do with my illness...
If I were you, I'd wait a few days now, not try to contact him. I know it will be difficult. If he calls, you can try to talk about it, very softly, if not ... Then don't blame yourself, maybe he just believed more and he's not ready for it yet.
Stay strong, don't blame yourself.
I'm a female with bpd, depression, and social anxiety. My last relationship went to shreds because I was not openly communicating to my partner about how bad I've gotten... I didn't confide in him because I thought he would either try to control something or just do nothing to help. Long distance is hard no matter what but dealing with mental illness and having a long distance relationship can be harder
@SMonroe948
Sorry that your last relationship ended up going to shreds. 💜 You were feeling bad but didn't feel comfortable trusting him with those feelings because you felt like he wouldn't respond in the way you wanted.
And experiencing all of that while far away from someone you're close to (not being able to connect with them in-person) sounds like it would have been really challenging for communicating.
Just an update.
So he unblocked me the next day and apologied etc then few days later did the same thing out of the blue, pretty much mid phone call. Hung up and blocked me.
We are back talking again, he's apologised and we have spoke about it a little but I don't want to push to much.
Thing is I've noticed he's being quite rude in the last day or 2. Like we can have a conversation and laugh and joke as normal then he will suddenly say something that comes across quite rude then back to himself again. It's new he's not usually like that.
I just don't know what to make of it. I can feel myself shutting off a bit towards him cos I just don't know what to expect next. I feel terrible doing that.
I do love the guy, I just feel like I need help with this.
I understand its so much harder for him and I'm feeling really selfish but when hes having one of his episodes and he says hurtful stuff and blocks me I find it hard to accept "sorry about that" the next day and we just crack on like before
Anyone got advise? Please 😔
@falloutboy1999
Hi--sorry that all of that has been happening and it sounds pretty disorienting. 💜 You're in a relationship with someone who has BPD and they've been honest and open about that, but they have been doing some things that are either confusing or anxiety-provoking:
- Things will seem fine but then they'll suddenly tell you they need some distance, need time alone, and don't want to talk to you. Or they'll block you without warning or without telling you for how long.
- They've told you that they sometimes feel like it would be better if the two of you never spoke again.
- Recently it's sometimes been happening that they'll be in a mood where they'll say something that feels rude or hurtful, like they aren't their usual self.
Everybody's different and BPD is complicated, but from what you've described about him, I can imagine his perspective and what it might feel like from his side. If I had to put it into my own words, I'd express it like this:
- "I feel completely overwhelmed sometimes, and other people don't really know how to deal with that. There's something about me that makes everybody around me feel unsafe. Even the people I'm closest to who I love and appreciate I don't really trust to be able to deal with this 'other' side of me. If I try to talk to anybody while I'm in this kind of state, it just always ends up going badly and backfiring. Either I end up hurting them or they end up hurting me. I don't want to have to feel guilty for saying something hurtful or confusing while I'm in a bad state of mind. I don't want to have the experience of reaching out to someone while I'm in a vulnerable state and feeling disappointed or rejected when they (understandably) aren't able to help me. I feel like I'm someone who is just full of poison and if any of that gets out or touches anybody, it's going to hurt them and hurt me, and I don't want that to happen. I feel like when I get that way, I need to distance myself. I wonder if I'm someone who is just fundamentally broken in some way and isn't meant to be in a relationship with anybody."
It's a really difficult place to be in and I feel a lot of love for him. 💜
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Here is a page that has some tips for loved ones of BPD:
https://www.mind.org.uk/information-support/types-of-mental-health-problems/borderline-personality-disorder-bpd/for-friends-and-family/
Here are some things I like in that link, paraphrased in my own words:
- Empathy/validation is extremely powerful. Just having someone doing their best to try to understand and be non-judgmental is unbelievably helpful.
- Be patient with the fact that he might not understand or be able to really explain what he's going through, what is best for him, what you should do, or how best to help himself. What he's experiencing is probably as confusing for him as it is for you.
- Encourage him to find support/help for what he's experiencing if he hasn't already. There are therapists who specialize in treatments like DBT (dialectical behavior therapy) that are specifically designed to help with BPD and have been scientifically shown to help.
- Try to work together with him (when he's in a calm state) to figure out what the best thing is for you to do when he's experiencing all of this that he would find most helpful and supportive. For example:
- If he gets into a "rude" state, what's the best way for you to respond?
- If he wants to distance himself, what's the best way for you to respond?
- If there are certain things he's doing that you don't feel okay with, it's okay to set some boundaries and discuss with him what you'd like him to do instead. For example:
- Maybe instead of being rude, you'd prefer for him to say something like, "I'm in a bad state and feel like I'm going to say something stupid that will hurt you; is it okay if I have some distance and we can talk about this later when I've calmed down a bit?"
- Maybe instead of suddenly blocking you without warning, you'd prefer for him to let you know beforehand that he wants the distance and give you a timeframe for when he plans to unblock you.
- He might be going through a lot but your feelings matter too, you're allowed to take care of yourself, and it's understandable that all of this would feel really hard to deal with.
Something I really like in general is the idea of collaborative communication: approaching this as something the two of you are trying to figure out and solve together and coming up with a plan/course of action that works for both of you where you can both feel loved, supported, and safe. A couple links on communication and relationship problem-solving:
https://www.psychalive.org/communication-between-couples/
https://www.verywellmind.com/learn-assertive-communication-in-five-simple-steps-3144969
Psychology Today: Borderline Personality Disorder or a Mercurial Disposition?.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/lifetime-connections/202109/borderline-personality-disorder-or-mercurial-disposition