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AReine May 30th, 2025

Welcome everyone!!!

I am currently reading King Lear and Othello for William Shakespeare.

I really really appreciate them.

I invite everybody to read them or to watch the inspired theater scenes.

And for those who have read or watched What are your impressions?

Share your thoughts with us ❤️ 🌹 


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jesusredeemedme2425 June 7th, 2025

@AReineRose

Boosting, so you get more views! *hugs*

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AReine OP June 7th, 2025

@jesusredeemedme2425 Thanks indeed, that is so kind of you ☺️. I hope it works 😉

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jesusredeemedme2425 June 7th, 2025

You are so welcome! I was homeschooled, and wasn’t required to read Shakespeare, so I have no input hehe. Hopefully someone else will tho :)

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AReine OP June 7th, 2025

Hopefully 🙏 ( by the way I read it alone we are not required to read it at school I just wanted to do it)

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jesusredeemedme2425 June 7th, 2025

It always seemed like it would be hard to understand. Is it?

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AReine OP June 8th, 2025

Yes the language is very hard to understand (ancient English) but the book provides both English and Arabic explanation. I spend minutes reading a few lines 😅

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littleSea2731 June 11th, 2025

@AReineRose I am currently reading it too. And it is such a wonderful story. Nice taste ☺️

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AReine OP June 11th, 2025

@littleSea2731 Thank you. I like old litterateur. I love Hamlet it is adorable 😍

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azurePond July 1st, 2025

@AReineRose I am caffeinated enough for this post, I hope no one is offended. If Shakespeare ever read this, he would love it (me hopeth)....

So... I have read King Lear and Othello. And I love King Lear for all the wrong reasons

1. Most people wanted  Lear and Cordelia to reconcile. Not me. I get a weird, twisted joy from the fact that Lear never gets to say “sorry” or “I was wrong” to Cordelia. Not because I hate her—but because her death means something. When she dies, Lear’s entire heart dies with her. She was the last good thing he had. Not just a daughter—she was the one shred of humanity he had left. The one person who didn’t treat him like a chess piece. And what does Shakespeare do? He h@ngs her. Then drops her limp body in her father’s arms and lets us watch him beg the heavens to undo it. And the heavens? They stay quiet.  Her death is not “pointless.” It’s perfectly cruel. It says- if you wait too long to appreciate the people who love you, they will be taken from you. Slowly and then all at once. And then Lear dies from heartbreak. Not in a soft poetic way—no. He dies how real people die when they lose everything that made life worth living. Shakespeare doesn’t give him peace. He gives him silence. And that’s why I love King Lear. It isn’t tragedy. It’s punishment —it’s divine sadism. 

2.  The storm is the only thing that makes sense. Everyone’s lying, scheming or going insane and then the weather shows up like, “You want context? The context is madness? I got madness.” Nature becomes the only honest character.


3. Goneril and Regan are mean girls but Shakespearean. They're not cartoon evil—they’re cold, calculating women tired of being props in their dad’s fantasy of control. Some critic argues that Shakespeare is a misogynist for portraying the sisters like that. But I think those characteres were necessary - women can be evil too yk. It was the female representation that we need in literature. I mean we have too many manie-pixie dream girls and Mary sues.


4. Gloucester gets his eyes torn out and literally sees the truth better after. He loses his sight and then gains insight. Symbolism? Please. This is just raw theatre with no chill. And I love it.


5. even the good people are helpless. A very sobering thought. Kent tries to fix everything and just ends up in disguise for most of the play getting punched and ignored. Edgar has to pretend to be a demon possessed beggar just to survive. Cordelia returns with an army and still dies.


 6. Lear’s breakdown is so theatrical (reminds me of my father on his best days)  it's almost funny. He goes out in the rain and starts giving speeches to thunder. He's losing his mind and Shakespeare lets you watch all of it.  The full-blown mental collapse of a narcissist.  


7. It ends not with justice but with silence also a rally of d3ad bodies. The survivors look around at the wreckage and don't say "It was worth it" or "Good triumphed." They say... “Speak what we feel, not what we ought to say.” Then the lights go out.


Now about Othello…I love Othello because it is the petty and messy.

Let’s be honest.... Othello is the Shakespearean version of "She didn’t text me back so I burnd down her village." It’s a love story that dies not with a bang  but with a deeply insecure spiral into delusion and pillow based murd3r.
There’s something hysterically bleak about watching a man with a literal war hero resume get emotionally dismantled by a dude who didn’t get a promotion.

More delightfully unwholesome reasons to love Othello-

1. Because Iago is the office gossip with a knife.
He’s not a grand villain. He’s not S@tan. He’s middle management. He’s a bitter HR complaint that grew legs and started puppeteering c0rpses. And he wins—not because he’s brilliant  but because everyone around him lacks basic communication skills and is stupid or in love. Or both.

2. Because Othello is hot until he opens his mouth (don't cancel me for this)
Othello starts the play as the dream: eloquent, noble, tragically misunderstood. I really felt sad and angry on his behalf for all the r@cism he faced but by Act IV, he’s giving slap monologues and calling Desdemona a wh0re with all the restraint of a R3ddit comment section. still angry about the r@cism .

Watching his dignity melt is horrifying, yes—but also a bit like watching someone eat glue in real time while insisting they’re fine.


3. Desdemona’s only crime was being too supportive.
She tries to help Cassio get his job back and her husband straight up decides she must be cheating. This is not just a tragic misunderstanding—it’s the Elizabethan equivalent of accusing your wife of infidelity because she shared someone’s social media post.


4. the handkerchief subplot is peak Shakespearean drama.
A grown man murd3rs his wife because of a dropped accessory. Not blood. Not proof. Not even a shirtless Cassio in the linen closet. A handkerchief.

5. Emilia is the real MVP and d!es for spilling tea.
Emilia figures it all out. She calls Iago out in front of everyone like she’s on a live broadcast and he st@bs her. For telling the truth.  Whistleblowers are always stabbed or shot.

6. everyone is emotionally 12 years old.
Cassio gets drunk once and starts crying about reputation. Othello thinks Desdemona being nice to a coworker means she’s cheating. Desdemona wants to fix everything with polite conversation as if men (in the play) are rational beings. No one communicates. Everyone assumes. Murd3r ensues. 10/10 writing.


7.  in some ways, it’s like King Lear on fast forward
King Lear takes five acts to destroy a man’s mind. Othello does it in two and a half. There’s something satisfyingly economical about that.
By Act III, Othello’s like: “I think I’ll ki!l my wife.” And we’re just along for the ride.


8. it’s fun to watch a how fast people’s loyalties change and how fast emotions override rationality (especially how fast one's intentions change when one's pride is affected)


Watching Othello go from “My life upon her faith!” to “I’ll t3ar her all to pieces” is horrifying—but in a Greek tragedy kind of way. It's like watching a slow motion car crash narrated in iambic pentameter.

Ok now for real,
I love Othello not because it just teaches us about the dangers of jealousy or the poison of manipulation—but because it reminds me how fragile love is in the hands of people who don’t understand themselves. It’s not a tragedy because a good man is destroyed—it’s a tragedy because everybody involved had a million chances to stop and didn’t.
And sometimes, I just like watching the worst case scenario unfold with perfect language, a touch of eyeliner, and a very, very dramatic pillow.


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AReine OP July 1st, 2025

I agree in many points. But my favourite part in King Lear is when Cordelia expresses her love to her father despite what he has said to her. I love it when she says <more than words can wield the matter... Beyond all matter of so much I love you >. What do you think about that 💭?

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azurePond July 2nd, 2025

@AReineRose  Oh I think your quoting is actually Cordelia's sister's line.. Goneril if I am not mistaken.... as part of the hollow flattery that Lear demands from his daughters at the beginning of the play. Goneril is performing love not expressing it. Her words are crafted, excessive, poetic—but empty. That’s the irony. She speaks of love “more than words can wield the matter” but then goes on to wield every word she can find or dagger lol.


But Cordelia refuses to play that game. When Lear turns to her and asks what she can say to “draw a third more opulent than your sisters" she simply answers... “Nothing, my lord.” And then Lear replies..
“Nothing will come of nothing".

But Cordelia’s “nothing” is not absence—it’s truth. She knows that real love does not require performance. And eventually when she returns in Act IV and sees her father again—broken, mad and humbled—her actions speak louder than any speech ever could. She kneels before him and says
“No cause, no cause.”
Which in Cordelia's words mean   ...you wronged me. You cast me away. You humiliated me. But I hold no cause for anger or resentment. I love you anyway. That, I believe is the moment you're emotionally responding to —not Goneril’s grand words, but Cordelia’s quiet strength.

Cordelia’s love is not poetic. It’s moral. It does not serve the ego, it serves the soul. It stands still while everything else in the play descends into noise and madness. And that stillness is what makes her loss so devastating.

In a world full of speeches, she chooses silence, honesty and mercy. And in that... she becomes the most powerful voice of the entire play. She is the contrast. Her silence is her voice, her non performance is her rebellion, her rationality is what everyone else deems madness.


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AReine OP July 2nd, 2025

Oh yes you are right Goneril said that.

King Lear has really got plenty of moral lessons and values that we will always need to learn ❤️🌹

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azurePond July 2nd, 2025

@AReineRose Yes… so many life lessons....

Like—don’t make big life decisions when you’re high on emotions. Be it anger or happiness or sorrow.  It never ends well.

Also—just because someone’s bad at saying the right words doesn’t mean they don’t love you. And just because someone gives perfect speeches about love doesn’t mean they actually do. Because love isn’t found in grand declarations or flattery—it lives in the small fierce loyalty that doesn’t need to be spoken.

But that said—if you love someone... don’t assume they’ll understand your silence. (Shakespeare's way of saying - learn about love languages) And at the same time, don’t test them with silence and games. Things like "do you still love me if I was a worm" can backfire. And when love isn’t grounded in emotional maturity, it turns into theatre—and sometimes, a tragedy.

And then there’s this- King Lear teaches us that wisdom rarely comes from authority—it’s born in humiliation, in loss, in being broken open. Lear only discovers compassion when he is mad, cold and stripped of everything.

It also reminds us that real kindness isn’t about reward or recognition—it’s about the moral courage to care even when there’s nothing to gain. That’s what makes Tom and Kent radical. Their loyalty isn’t dramatic... it’s steadfast.

And justice? Real justice in life is often anticlimactic. It doesn’t arrive with thunder or monologues.

It arrives late. Quiet. Often too late. And it leaves you more tired than triumphant.

 

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AReine OP July 3rd, 2025

I love how you formulate the moral lessons. You should really have your own book 💝🌸

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azurePond July 6th, 2025

@AReineRose Aww, you’re too kind! Thank you so much, AReineRose 💌📖

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AReine OP December 21st, 2025

@AReineRose

I am finished reading them both 😄

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azurePond December 22nd, 2025

@AReineRose meryl-streep-clap.gif

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AReine OP December 22nd, 2025

Thanks for the motivation (⁠人⁠ ⁠•͈⁠ᴗ⁠•͈⁠)

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AReine OP December 21st, 2025

@AReineRose now I am going on Hamlet 

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AReine OP December 21st, 2025

@AReineRose so excited to finish it as well 

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AReine OP December 21st, 2025

@AReineRose

Then haha straight to Macbeth 

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azurePond December 22nd, 2025

@AReineRose excited-stoked.gif

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AReine OP December 22nd, 2025

You're awesome 😎

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azurePond December 24th, 2025

@AReineRose you%27re-awesome.gif

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AReine OP December 24th, 2025

@azurePond i finished Hamlet 

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AReine OP December 24th, 2025

@azurePond I cannot bear its beauty 😊

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