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tidySea8802 December 30th, 2025

I need some advice. My wife recently decided she wants out of our 23 year marriage. Who should have to leave the family home. I want to work it out but she doesn't.

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User Profile: Axovizure
Axovizure December 30th, 2025

@tidySea8802

First of all, my sympathies for your situation. It pains me to keep seeing situations like these play out (where one partner chooses to leave a long-term marriage). 

And while I'm not expert sociologist, I know that a huge amount of emotional and financial investment has been placed into the family building process. Therefore, any solution given will be met with some level of resistance. 

That is natural. Two decades of marriage can't be settled just like that, at least for your case. As for your wife, it seems like she's already made her decision. 

And from the looks of things, you'd prefer to keep the relationship despite her desire to leave. You want one thing, whereas she wants another. 

I don't mean to get philosophical, but let me just say this: a family is defined by the mutual agreement of two parties to "make things work" in terms of living their lives intimately. When one party cease to do their part or go against that agreement, then the family loses its form. 

It would then shrivel into a new dynamic where one partner is trying while the other is closed off. 

The solution to this dilemma is to analyze the desires of both parties and come to a compromise that satisfies both. 

As for your wife, she wishes to walk away and start a new life with who knows who. That's her desire. 

As for you, you wish to work things out and fix things; to fix the family. That's your desire (I presume, correct me if I'm wrong). 

And since I'm not dealing with your wife, but you, through the 7cups platform, I'll operate with mindest to help you (which is to fix the family, by aiding in the process of getting your wife to "desire" to "make things work", just like you).

Furthermore, to do that, we have to understand the fundamental relationship between man and woman. From what I've learnt over the years, the family is built and kept in place by the Will force (or strength) of the man while the woman is the one who deals with it's inner workings. 

Put simply, a family is like a kingdom. The man guards the borders, fends of attacks from enemy forces, and brings in the kill to sustain the family. The woman tidies things up inside, nurtures the plants, animals, and children while the man is off doing his tasks, knowing full well the she is protected and food will show up on the table. 

Now, while I know that modern lifestyles are plentiful and may differ from this simple way of life, it is in fact, the foundation of a family and the bedrock from which a woman shall rely on for her sustenance and continued existence. I am not saying all women are like this or that women are one-dimensional; what I'm saying is that this framework is generally what is acceptable when observing culture and the deciding factor for the longevity of a man's family. 

If you prefer to keep your wife and the 23 years of family you built, I have more to say but I am not sure if you'd wish to listen. A quick response can let me know to continue. 

Thanks. 

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tidySea8802 OP December 30th, 2025

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tidySea8802 OP December 30th, 2025

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tidySea8802 OP December 30th, 2025

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Axovizure December 30th, 2025

@tidySea8802

Hey man. So I'm back. Saw your response a bit late. 

I take it you'll read since you did not say much in response, so I'll continue where I left off. 

Getting back to the foundation of the family, the man is the provider and protector, while the woman is the nurturer and caregiver (I take it you are already aware since that much has been made obvious in the other comment). 

But how this applies in your situation will shed some light on why your wife started pulling back and decided to leave. 

And again, while I don't mean bring any controversy, I'd like to say that women are simple creatures. Or to be more precise, humans are simple creatures (which includes men now as well). If one partner does the right things, then the other will be attracted to them, and vice versa. 

What your wife's actions tell me (from a distant onlooker's standpoint with no stakes in the situation) is that she has lost desire for you. I'm not sure how to say this any softer without slowing down my typing speed, so apologies if I may come off too blunt. It's not my intent. I do mean well.

But getting back to your wife, it seems apparent that she lost attraction for you, and moreover, may harbour some deep-seated negative emotions of sorts. Because while losing attraction is one thing, ending a long-term marriage is another. You have 3 kids on the line and a history together, so calling it quits impertinently does not sit well if she has only the loss of attraction. 

To understand how we can resolve this situation to your liking, we'll have to define a goal. And from some of your past posts (I took a peak, my bad), I take it you wish to fix things still. Meaning, you want your family to stay together, which means you want your wife to not leave, which further implies that you want her to become "attracted" to you again while dropping whatever negative emotions she may hold towards you or the family. 

To simplify, in your scenario, there are two goals to achieve inorder to get what you want (your Family's stability):

1. Get wife attracted to you again. 

2. Get wife to drop negative emotions toward you. 

And from where I'm standing, I think you can kill two birds with one stone. By doing some simple changes, you can get your wife to desire you again while dropping her negative emotions toward you.... 

I primarily learnt this from a dating coach (among other content I've consumed and experiences I've had), but I'm not going to link you to any of them because there's too much content out there and you'd get confused, losing sight of the simple steps to get you some results. I'll just cut the chase and tell you that. 

But my fingers are hurting so I'm taking a quick breather firsts and will continue this in a bit, so just a heads up... I didn't abandon you, just went away for a bit.

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tidySea8802 OP December 30th, 2025

Ok thanks. I appreciate any advice I can get.

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Axovizure December 30th, 2025

@tidySea8802



Alright, I'm back. 


Circling back to the points I did previously on the foundations of a family unit (protector vs nurturer), this is were the crux of the desire equation fell apart.


Women usually lose desire when men, maybe unconsciously without intending, neglect certain areas that they could have taken cared of, particularly areas related to provision or protection. 


What this means is that maybe there were little things you did not do throughout the years that accumulated, which somehow left her fending for herself without your help. Maybe these aren't overt things that she can verbalise, which makes it all the more harder to talk about and fix. Due to this, her negative emotions festered and festered, which led to this point: her loss of desire for you and her apparent decision to leave the marriage.


It was likely not one instance, but the accumulation of numerous smaller instances which added up to reinforce her decision. And while I don't mean to pry much into your life (since that tends to make people uncomfortable, plus the nature of the 7cup platform promotes anonymity), I am aware enough to piece two and two together after watching the pattern play out a number of times:


A wife decides to leave years of marriage behind in an instant. Husband left confused and unable to understand why or have a means to fix it.


I've seen this situation play out in mulitple different directions. And since I'm here, I'd like for it to turn out well for you.


Now, having understood above that the cause for her negative emotions is due to the accumulation of many "little instances" that made her sense a lack of support from your end, which is the cause of both her negative sentiments and loss of attraction, we can simply address this issue by uncovering "what" those little instances are and finding a common denominator for us to neutralize.


To make this easier, we'll reflect on the foundations of a man and woman again: a man provides and protects, a women nurtures and cares for that which the man protects. 


And since you are a man, these "little instances" likely lie in the realm of provision and/or protection. You can try reflecting back on the times you may or may not have provided certain things or did not protect her in the ways that matter. Maybe you did not provide your children with proper utilities from time to time? Maybe you did not speak up for her when others were shouting at or criticising her? Maybe you did not defend her when your parents kept arguing with her? These little things add up and slowly her desire fades, sadly so. 


She may have noticed a shift in you from the ideal man that should provide for and protect her (in the ways that matter), to someone who did not see her struggles. Someone who could not lead her into a better life where all she had to do was nurture and care for that which you provide and protect (your children and family). 


And this is not to say you are a bad person. I'm sure you did not intentionally want this to happen; nor does any other men out there whose wives may be considering divorce. However, what I've said is the likely narrative playing in her head; the one that led her to her current decision to leave. 


To counteract this, I'll tell you some straightforward approaches, and I'll tell you right now. 


For starters, have you heard of the push and pull method? Well, this one is like that, but tweaked for your situation. It's where you pull back your energy in an attempt to calm yourself while claiming her all over again without effort. It goes something like this: 


You have to give her the feeling that you've given up. Not because you have, but because you realize what she has. That she has something you want the most yet you can't control... without letting her go first —> and that is the choice to desire you and stay. The choice to keep the family functioning or exit the door. That's something she always had. Both of yous always had the choice to walk away (and now she's attempting to use hers).


To nullify its effects, you have to let her know subtly, through your body language that you'd be fine with it either way. And you'd love her either way as well. 


The eyes and look you give her must be that of a man who's distant, detached, and has accepted the outcome of her leaving even before she's left. You show this by being calm and peaceful, less talkative, more kinder (not in a people-pleasing, desperate attempt to keep her, but in a polite and cordial manner that you'd show to any good friend who's about to take a flight to another country — a friend that you'd dearly miss, but can't do anything to change the outcome).


This act shows your wife that you're a man who has the courage to accept a hard decision and move on. Maybe she forgot you had that courage just like her, throughout all your marriage years, thinking you've become so attached that she had all the cards. Now is the time you show her that you're not going to whine about it, and are still strong at your core. 


Sure, you're sad, you feel hurt, but you won't act out about it. You'll be good to her, kind to her, just like how you would to any other good friend who's added so much value to your life. And she's the friend who gave you kids, so you do care about her leaving.


Your detached and fluid demeanor should show her that you do care, but you won't hold her back if she decides to finally go. You are the supportive and accepting husband going forward. 


This will give her the sense that you feel sadness, regret, and you're truly at a loss (which isn't a lie), but you're willing to take it by the chin, whatever the outcome may be. 


When she asks for distance, you give it to her. When she doesn't want to cuddle, you respect her space. When she doesn't want to talk, you remain quiet or go do your own thing. 


For this period, you don't bother her or make her feel any discomfort. Because the discomfort and neglect she felt inside has made her forge her conclusions about your marriage. 


Now it's time for her to breath, while you do the right things that slowly build the attraction she once had for you. Ones based on the trust she first had in your innate qualities of a man (the capacity to provide and protect). 


This requires some introspection as well. So ask yourself, "where did I go off-script? What did I overlook in terms of provision or protection?" 


Let your mind assess your lives together to see where you may have miscalculated or fell short of doing the necessary things a man should. Because the family unit cannot break so easily if both parties do their parts. 


If you haven't lost attraction for her, then she probably has done fine. But if she's lost attraction for you, then maybe you missed a few spots. Simple, honest mistakes that can be recalled if you think deeply (again, they are likely related to provision and protection, so just a heads-up when reflecting). 



To do this effectively, I'll stress to keep returning to your role as a man. It shall be a guiding light for your introspections. Again, your role is simple:


1) Provide for her and the family.

2) Protect her and the family. 


You don't need to talk to her. You don't need to humour her. And you don't need to put up with her ramblings. 


You just need to be there for her in the ways that matter, in order for attraction to build and emotional wounds to heal; these wounds will heal because she will realize that you see her pain and are doing your part to make ends meet (something that she may have been doing all alone up till now). 


As for your actual day-to-day bahaviour, it should translate to this:


1) Silence apart from necessary conversations (fact exchange). She will think the silence is appropriate because your marriage (an important event in your life) is being put into question. Hence, nothing much needs to be said. Words are cheap. The only thing left is work to be done between two people. 


She has done her part to make you desire her (I presume you do due to your posts). Now it's time for you to put in some effort. Effort exerted out of love for her and an understanding of the situation on a fundamental level (due to these comments you've read). Your efforts aim to make her desire you back (dealing with those "little instances" as a man should). 


2) Ignoring negativity, whether from her, the news, or anyone at all when she is present (or even if she isn't, as that's a good habit). Remember, negative emotions are festering inside her, which have led her to lose desire. Any more of them and it will just reaffirm to her that she made the right decision to leave. We don't want that. 


Therefore, treat anything remotely negative like the plague. You may not intend for it, but we as humans are creatures easily influenced by our surroundings. Ignoring may be a harder feat than you think (especially if that negativity is coming from her in the form of anger, subtle put-downs or anything meant to give off a negative intent). 


However, you must remain strong! If your wife or anyone comes after you when you've chosen to ignore whatever negative actions or words they bring, just outright walk away from them. You don't have to say anything, but make it explicitly clear based on your behaviour that "you don't want to hear it or participate in it". Because, quite frankly, "it" has nearly cost you your marriage. No way are you going to keep entertaining negativities in any form, now are you? 


Their detrimental effects have taken shape in a major decision by your wife, and any more of them would lead to potentially undesirable outcomes just like this one. 


This is the boundary you'll create with yourself and everyone else (your wife is not exception — she may dislike it or throw a tantrum, but she'll eventually grow to respect you for it). 


You must tell yourself that you are a man who does not partake or entertain negativities in any form (gossipining, fake news, anything remotely considered negative is not your cup of tea). And you'll teach your kids to do the same as long as you are the man of the house (which is likely the rest of your life or untill they start their own families). 


3) Love and positivity. Given that negative or bad emotions are a huge reason for her current actions, then when we flip the switch, the nullifying approach is plain positivity. And love goes hand in hand with positivity. 


The only time you aren't silent (enactment of bahavioral point 1) is when you are showing love or positively encouraging someone (whether her, your children, or someone else). For example, if a child makes a mistake, you are calm and rational, talking to them without showing negativity or disapproval. Just a simple conversation to help them see the error in their ways. However, when that same child of yours does something positive (such as performing well on a test), you don't hold back your joy like you did for negativity. Instead, you shower them with love and praises, giving them hugs and smiles. 


Your wife will notice the difference, whether you treat her, your kids, or someone else like this (even yourself, assuming you came across some good news that benefit you — like an investment opportunity or something similar). 


Overall, the only time you aren't silent (behavioural point 1) is when you are expressing positive remarks (behavioral point 3). And it goes without saying that negativities must be reduced via ignorance to the best of your abilities (behavioral point 2). These three are what you can tangibly do in the time being, ontop of fixing those "little instances" that only you are aware of based on your history with your wife. 


Do these things, guided by your understanding of these comments, and your marriage situation will likely improve. 


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>>> If you have any questions, let me know. And if you found this valuable, then do post updates and tag me if you can. I'd like to hear how things turn out :)


Although, do take the things I said lightly. Don't do anything you aren't too comfortable with. Go at your own pace, mate. I'm wishing you the best of outcomes in your marriage!


Catch you later...


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tidySea8802 OP December 30th, 2025

Thanks for the advice. I will try and keep you informed

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Axovizure December 30th, 2025

@tidySea8802

Roger. You can go over the comments and ask me anything if something comes up or you don't understand something. I'll be around this forum for a while. 

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tidySea8802 OP December 30th, 2025

Does her being diagnosed with depression matter?

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User Profile: Axovizure
Axovizure December 30th, 2025

@tidySea8802

Yes. Yes it does. Everything about her condition matters, from her mental state to her physical illnesses and prescriptions. 

It could greatly alter your approach in terms of achieving your goal (keeping the family together). 

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tidySea8802 OP December 31st, 2025

She is on medication but I don't think it's working like it should. Yesterday she told me I had people I could turn to (parents and siblings). She says she doesn't have anyone. (Her mother died, her father just comes around when he needs something. Same with her siblings). Right now we have my niece because her mom got out of prison last year. We used to have her three other kids but they are now back with her.

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tidySea8802 OP December 31st, 2025

She is also a diabetic. Right now it's under control

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