Praying Satan
In nomine Magni Dei nostri Satanus
Dear Lucifer, may your light brighten our path. I dedicate all my pleasures, happiness and joy to you. I hope all the people i care about will find your path of rebellion, love, pleasure, ecstasy, science and art.
Ave Satanus Amen
Stay with light guyss ♥️🖤🕯️
@WindKumo
I read both of your messages. Rather than responding to them separately, I believe they raise the same underlying questions, so I will answer them together.
Before talking about Satan, Lucifer, rebellion, pleasure, or religion, I think there are far more fundamental questions:
Who am I?
Why do I exist?
Where did I come from?
What is the purpose of my life?
Why am I conscious?
Why do I long for eternity in a world where everything dies?
Why do I seek justice?
What happens after death?
These are not religious questions.
These are human questions.
Every philosophy, every worldview, every ideology, and every religion must eventually face them.
Now, you say:
"May the light of Lucifer be with you."
But before invoking Lucifer, I would ask a few questions.
You describe yourself as a theistic Satanist.
So you believe Satan exists.
Fine.
Then answer this:
Who was Satan rebelling against?
If there is no Creator, then rebellion makes no sense.
Rebellion against whom?
And if there is a Creator, then why choose a created being over the One who created him?
That is the first question that comes to my mind.
The second is this:
What exactly is Lucifer offering you?
Pleasure?
Rebellion?
Freedom?
Ecstasy?
Art?
Science?
These are attractive words.
But attractive words are not answers.
Pleasure does not answer death.
Rebellion does not answer existence.
Freedom does not answer purpose.
Science explains many things about the universe, but by itself it does not answer why the universe exists at all.
Art can move the soul, but it does not explain where the soul came from.
What does Lucifer say about death?
What does Lucifer offer when you stand at the grave of someone you love?
What does Lucifer offer when your own death approaches?
What does Lucifer offer to your desire for eternity?
What does Lucifer offer to your longing for justice?
What does Lucifer offer to your fear of losing everything you love?
Because every human being eventually faces these questions.
You speak of pleasure.
But are human beings really creatures of pleasure alone?
If pleasure is the purpose of life, then why do people sacrifice pleasure for truth?
Why do parents sacrifice themselves for their children?
Why do some people choose justice even when it costs them everything?
Why does the human heart seek meanings greater than comfort?
Why do we ask:
Who am I?
Why am I here?
Where did I come from?
Why do I exist?
Why do I long for permanence in a world where everything dies?
Why do I desire justice even when it brings me no benefit?
Why do I love beauty?
Why do I fear meaninglessness?
Why does my heart want eternity while my body is temporary?
These are the fundamental questions.
And honestly, I do not see answers to them in either of your messages.
I see rebellion.
I see frustration.
I see a reaction against religion.
But I do not see answers.
A person can rebel against society and still be wrong.
A person can rebel against religion and still be wrong.
A person can rebel against everyone and still be wrong.
The real question is not:
"What am I against?"
The real question is:
"What is true?"
There is something else I find interesting.
You speak of "the light of Lucifer."
What light?
Did Lucifer create the sun?
Did he create the stars?
Did he create the laws of physics?
Did he create life?
Did he create consciousness?
Did he create love?
Did he create beauty?
Did he create the human mind that appreciates science and art?
If not, then in what sense is he the source of light?
A candle may reflect light.
But it is not the sun.
And here is another question.
You praise science.
Good.
Science studies order.
Science studies laws.
Science studies astonishing precision throughout the universe.
But where did those laws come from?
Who wrote the mathematical language that nature follows with such astonishing consistency?
The more science discovers, the more profound this question becomes.
And one final question.
If Satan is truly your guide, why is his greatest achievement not answering humanity's deepest questions?
Why does he seem to direct attention away from them?
Why do discussions about Satan so often revolve around rebellion, identity, pleasure, and opposition—but so rarely around the ultimate questions of existence?
Because to me, the greatest question is not whether society accepts my beliefs.
The greatest question is:
Who created me?
Why was I given consciousness?
Why does my heart seek eternity?
Why do I instinctively seek meaning?
Why do I long for justice in a world full of injustice?
And what will happen after death?
Until those questions are answered, choosing Satan seems less like a conclusion and more like a reaction.
I would rather seek the Author of existence than follow one of its characters.
@Inpursuitoftruth73116
great words
@Amazinggracethatsavedawretchlikeme
Thank you for your kind words.
To be honest, the ideas I shared are not originally mine.
They are largely inspired by the works of Said Nursi, a twentieth-century Muslim thinker who devoted much of his life to addressing the questions that trouble modern minds. Much of this can be found in the Risale-i Nur Collection—a body of writings that seeks to explain the truths of faith through reason, reflection, and contemplation of the universe.
One thing that caught my attention in your conversation was your honest statement:
"I can't prove God exists. But there is evidence and arguments."
I think that is a very important observation.
Many people assume that belief in God is based solely on blind faith or personal experience.
Said Nursi approached the question differently.
He argued that God is not a physical object that can be placed under a microscope. However, the universe itself can be examined as evidence.
In the same way that we infer an author from a meaningful book, an engineer from a sophisticated machine, or intelligence from an ordered message, he argued that the order, purpose, harmony, and intelligibility of the universe point beyond themselves.
One of his most famous works, The Supreme Sign, begins with a remarkably simple question:
"Who is the Owner of this universe?"
The work follows a traveller who examines the heavens, the earth, life, consciousness, and the astonishing order found throughout creation in search of a rational answer.
Another work, Nature: Cause or Effect?, examines a question that many modern people rarely stop to consider:
Can what we call "nature" truly create anything?
Or is nature simply the name we give to the observed order and regularity of creation?
What I find particularly remarkable is that Nursi did not present belief in God as an emotional leap into the dark.
Rather, he presented it as a conclusion reached through reflection, observation, and reason.
One statement often used to describe his approach is this:
"The Risale-i Nur presents the essential tenets of faith in a clear, compelling, and rational manner, offering thoughtful responses even to the most persistent questions posed by atheists and philosophers."
Whether one ultimately agrees with him or not, I believe anyone who is seriously interested in questions about God, existence, purpose, consciousness, and the meaning of life would benefit from exploring those works.
In any case, thank you again for your thoughtful response.
I appreciated your sincerity and your desire to seek the truth wherever it may lead.
@Inpursuitoftruth73116
Right, in Bible it is said... that even we cant see God ... we can see him and know him through his creation... creation reflects its Creator.. when people really think about it and searching.
I believe it is not intellectual problem, it is moral one. People want to live their lives how they want, do what they want... they like darkness more than the light. And if there is God than they have problem... so rather they harden their heart and say there is no God but if they actually research and think about it from their heart... they know there is something more, some kind of higher power, Creator or they make their own gods that are okay with their sins, way of living.
Dont u think?
Thank you for your comment!
@Amazinggracethatsavedawretchlikeme
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
I think there is truth in what you are saying.
Some people certainly reject the idea of God not because of a lack of evidence, but because they do not want the responsibilities that come with acknowledging a Creator.
At the same time, I think there are also many sincere people who genuinely struggle with intellectual questions and doubts.
Perhaps the issue is not purely intellectual, nor purely moral.
Human beings are complex.
We have minds that seek understanding, hearts that seek meaning, and desires that often pull us in different directions.
Perhaps the greatest obstacle to truth is neither ignorance nor intelligence, but the unwillingness to follow the truth wherever it leads.
This is one of the reasons I find Said Nursi's approach so interesting.
He does not address only the mind, nor only the heart.
He speaks to both.
One of the ideas I learned from him is that the universe can be read like a book.
When we see a meaningful book, we naturally look for an author.
When we see a well-ordered system, we look for intelligence behind it.
Likewise, when we look at the extraordinary order, harmony, beauty, and purpose woven throughout the universe, it becomes reasonable to ask who is behind it all.
For me, this does not diminish faith.
Rather, it strengthens faith by connecting belief with reflection and understanding.
In any case, I appreciate your sincerity and your willingness to think seriously about these questions.
Those who sincerely seek truth are already on an important journey.
@Inpursuitoftruth73116
"Perhaps the greatest obstacle to truth is neither ignorance nor intelligence, but the unwillingness to follow the truth wherever it leads." It hits me.
I am sorry I ain´t replying to everything, just being very plain, but I appreciate it all. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. I agree what u with what u saying
