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Overcoming perfectionism

User Profile: TheAtticusFinch
TheAtticusFinch July 7th, 2020

Hey everyone and happy Tuesday! I hope everyone is having a great week so far. I start debate camp this week so my replies towards threads might not be the quickest. Debate camp is going to be so much fun and I'm excited! :) I have a great team and I'm really excited to work with them as well. Throughout debate this year, I've always struggled with perfectionism. Even though I still am a beginner/intermediate with my debate levels, there's always been a pressure to be as perfect with my rhetoric or with anything I do really, so I wanted to open up a bit of discussion about it!

"Perfection is a moving target"

This quote really moved me when I was doing some research with perfectionism because of how true it is. It's impossible to be perfect, we hear it all the time. From when we were younger to when we reach the workplace, we are constantly told and affirmed that there is no perfect. Yet, it seems like we are still constantly striving to be perfect and beat ourselves up afterwards.

Why is perfectionism bad for you? Two reasons:

#1: It can be suffocating. There's no need to explain any further that being a perfectionist can often feel really suffocating in how we perceive our own abilities and how we evaluate ourselves. Often as a perfectionist, we think "This can be better" and after we improve, it's almost like there's a never ending "better" that just goes on and on. It's almost like we keep reaching for the cookie jar and it seems like the cookie jar is always one shelf higher than the one we can reach.

#2: It can often make us enjoy the things we enjoy doing less. This second reason is similar to the first in that we can often feel hopeless in becoming "better" with academics, jobs, or extracurriculars. This hopeless feeling can sometimes turn into an almost-nihilstic feeling of never-ending misery about what we cannot achieve. I often felt this way with writing and with debate and the idea of me never becoming "perfect" might have stopped me from being motivated to becoming "better" sometimes.

It's weird too how we often reassure others that they are enough and their effort in their schoolwork or job is enough, but it's hard to help ourselves with this. So what is the solution to this?

I don't think there is a one-size fits all solution to a problem as big as "not feeling or being good enough" for things like school or with your career. Often times we're told just to "try our best". I don't know about you but that saying never seemed to have really filled the never-ending hole of self-criticism and self-hate.

#1) Changing the way we speak to ourselves.

The way we talk to ourselves really changes how we perceive ourselves and the people around us. It's crazy how impactful changing the tone of how you think can change how you do, especially when it comes to imperfection. When we say things like "Oh god I can't believe I got a B on the math test, I'm never going to pass", we're putting ourselves down and worst of all, it leads to no where. Instead, we need to work on talking to ourselves with a growth perspective and tone. Instead of that statement, we can work on saying things like "Oh my, I might be disappointed in what I got but I'm going to talk to my teacher tomorrow to see what I can do to learn from my mistakes"

#2) Finding beauty in imperfection.

This is harder for school, but it's more of a mindset of looking for beauty and feeling content with imperfection. What I mean by this is accepting what you have created or accomplished, no matter how big or small, and being proud of ourselves for it. For example, I could beat myself up about not being the perfect debater, but I can also be slightly more proud of myself for getting to where I am again and looking for the beauty of my growth in debate and more potential growth in the future.

#3) Being gentler with ourselves and rewarding ourselves as well.

With gentler tones and with gentler mindsets, there's also the physical need to reward ourselves with our achievements in order to combat the never ending strive towards perfectionism. We have to take a step back from whatever we're working on and allow ourselves to rest. I know myself and I often overwork myself to the point of exhaustion, which is why I need to work more on resting, sleeping, hydrating, and really taking care of myself more.

Discussion questions:

enlightenedWould you consider yourself a perfectionist? What are some challenges you face being a perfectionist? If you're not a perfectionist, how do you overcome perfectionism?

enlightenedWhat are some things you can do today or tomorrow to be more gentle on yourself and how you talk to yourself?

enlightenedWhat is your favorite ice cream flavor?

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User Profile: Hydrangea03
Hydrangea03 July 7th, 2020

Hello again!! Thank you so much for this wonderful post!

enlightenedWould you consider yourself a perfectionist? What are some challenges you face being a perfectionist? If you're not a perfectionist, how do you overcome perfectionism?

Yes, I am. I think my perfectionism branches from the relentless academic pressure I was given as a child :/. So it began with me trying to be perfect for the people who expected me to be, and now it all ends up in *me* trying to be perfect for *myself* (which is not better or worse).

I think the most difficult part of it is that Im almost never happy with what I do or can achieve at the moment. I also compare myself to others a lot. I become ambitious to ‘surpass them and ultimately become ‘the best. Its very challenging because I tend to overwork myself and get overly distraught when Im unable to get the results I want - and even if I do, I will again think why I couldnt do even better :(

enlightenedWhat are some things you can do today or tomorrow to be more gentle on yourself and how you talk to yourself?

I adore the idea of finding beauty in imperfection. I want to think that my imperfections are unique in the same way my strengths are; after all, they are one of what make me a distinct and ‘real person :). I also want to try self-rewarding! It sounds therapeutic and sweet~

enlightenedWhat is your favorite ice cream flavor?

Lemon and guava!!

Stay well and take good care everyone ^^

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User Profile: StanDaMan78
StanDaMan78 July 7th, 2020

@Hydrangea03

enlightenedWould you consider yourself a perfectionist? What are some challenges you face being a perfectionist? If you're not a perfectionist, how do you overcome perfectionism?

I thnk I would consider myself a perfectionist because I want every detail, big and small, to be perfect. One of the struggles I face is being a little over-compulsive, which gets tedious and time consuming and I can get peeved by that.

enlightenedWhat are some things you can do today or tomorrow to be more gentle on yourself and how you talk to yourself?

I have to remember that nothing can be perfect, but I can make sure that I do everything to the best of my ability.

enlightenedWhat is your favorite ice cream flavor?

Mint chocolate chip.

User Profile: TheAtticusFinch
TheAtticusFinch OP July 9th, 2020

@Hydrangea03

Hey Hydrangea, thanks for responding and sorry for the late response <3 Oh my, i can definitely relate heavily with the academic perfection standards that you received as a child. I came from a really similar strict household that overemphasized the importance of academics and didn't emphasize the importance of social connecting enough, unfortunately. :/ A lot of what you mentioned about relating to others is extremely relatable for me as well. I took a course from Yale's coursera thingy that talked about how social comparison is just the absolute worst for almost every social situation anyone is put in. Learning these stats and scientific evidence behind why I shouldn't engage in certain behaviors helps a bit :) The thing about being "better" or "perfect" is that it's up to your own standard, I think. :( Obviously family affects how high or low that standard is so I get that and I hope it's not too high for us in the future. I adore that idea as well!! I definitely suggest watching Nathaniel Drew on YouTube, he has great stuff about that and inspired me to write this post. :) I did not know lemon and guava were ice cream flavors! Awesome, more flavors to try out. :) Thanks for responding and take care. <3

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User Profile: Hydrangea03
Hydrangea03 July 10th, 2020

Thank you for the very thoughtful response, @TheAtticusFinch!! Im going to check out Nathaniel Drews channel - thank you so much for the recommendation!

Take care!!! I hope youre well ^w^

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User Profile: CarthageSea
CarthageSea July 8th, 2020

hey atticus :) i really enjoyed this <3 thank you for everything you do

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TheAtticusFinch OP July 12th, 2020

@sereneoceanscene

Awwww I'm glad you liked the post and thank you for everything you do! hehe

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User Profile: theheartproject
theheartproject July 8th, 2020

@TheAtticusFinch

enlightenedWould you consider yourself a perfectionist? What are some challenges you face being a perfectionist? If you're not a perfectionist, how do you overcome perfectionism?

Yes. The greatest challenge is that most of the time I waste time perfecting things that are already okay or good. Find it challenging to work in groups. Challenging to teach children. You definitely don't want me to be your supervisor.laugh

enlightenedWhat are some things you can do today or tomorrow to be more gentle on yourself and how you talk to yourself?

I could benefit from daily affirmations.

enlightenedWhat is your favorite ice cream flavor?

Chocolate

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User Profile: TheAtticusFinch
TheAtticusFinch OP July 12th, 2020

@theheartproject

Hey there <3 sorry for the late reply!! Awww I really feel you on that one. Being a perfectionist on ourselves is hard but it also gets frustrating when we start to affect other people with it as well. Oh noooo yes I'm very scared for you to be my supervisor hahaha <3 I feel you with children though, I used to be a math tutor (I'm not even that great at math shhh) and it was incredibly challenging to not expect perfection from young middle schoolers. Affirmations are great and omg chocolate ice cream is bomb as well!! :) Take care <3

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