How can I hate anything?
It's true. The worst things are teachers in a way. Sometimes building in us greater compassion or resilience or forgiveness etc, all the values we need to nurture our spirits with and achieve spiritual bliss.
@BlatantHonesty
Your words: "Even the worst things in the world are a manifestation of divine."
Well. There are good and bad forces in this world. God is good, but the devil is really bad.
Indeed God is good and the devil is bad...
and the good will win... because that is God's might. sometimes justice may not happen in this life but surely it will happen in the hereafter. Good will trump. No force can be bigger than God's force. It's God's wisdom when to unleash that power to crush the devil but surely it'll happen.
@Creamyyy
Hi Creamyyy!
At Easter-time Jesus Christ won over all the dark forces when he died on the cross. Col.2.14-15 in the Bible says: "having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. 15 And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross." So thank to God we can have full victory over evil when we cling to the victory Jesus won with His death and ressurection the 3. day.
@Helgafy In my faith we dont see Jesus as a son of God who died on the cross and earned salvation for all his believers. We see him as a Prophet of God who did not die on the cross but was called back to God. We have to work for our purification in this life as a test from God.
@Creamyyy
@Helgafy Yes I am Muslim. Our version of the event is that God send someone else to die on the cross giving him the appearance of Jesus. God did not allow Prophet Jesus to be killed and called him back.
@Creamyyy
@Helgafy if we didn't come here for a test to do good deeds, what's the purpose of God sending us and giving us sustenance - to sit and watch and amuse ourselves?
It depends from your way to see everything, there's good and bad but for sure the bad/ worst don't come from divine otherwise what sense make we having God and Devil? For example, hungry in Africa is actions from divine? Have a beautiful Sunday ✨
@BlatantHonesty even the worst things are by divine permission no doubt but it's for a purpose. You may not hate the evil because hate itself is evil but you are expected to exercise good to wipe out evil.... to fulfil your soul contract with the divine.
@BlatantHonesty no, they are not. Abuse, r*pe, murder, inc*st, diseases, poverty, violence, natural calamities, terrorism, people's sickly vices. No way. In what way is this divine?
@Sanvee11
Thats for you to figure out. I say what I say.
@BlatantHonesty please stop justifying the evil in this world. It's extent is unimaginably horrifying.
@Sanvee11
I'm not answerable to you. I do what I do. I say what I say.
@BlatantHonesty you are being tart now.
@Sanvee11
"please stop justifying". if you used some intellect you'd see there is no justification, just unskewed observation.
@Sanvee11 I agree. I don't see things from divine. These are problems caused by evil in people. However the question is - why doesn't God stop the evil then and there and not let such hardships arise? And the answer to that is God has not said that life will be an example of his justice. His justice will happen in the Hereafter. Purpose of life is a test to separate good and evil- with what grace did we face our hardships and with what compassion did we reach out to others, these are things we should think about when we see these extreme horrors. We are all being tested.
I don't agree with you. It's true that God has created everything, but everyone has a choice. Whether or not that choice is supported or defied, valid or invalid, is then up to God and the way He created life. Treat things with less focus than that and you'll be okay, but saying even the bad things happen because of God will turn you into a loophole of blame.
@exuberantTortoise9417
you dont know what God is.
That's a very judgemental thing to say to someone you don't anything about. You were talking about the "divine", so I spoke my piece.
@exuberantTortoise9417
@Sanvee11
Hi both of you.
I think @BlatantHonesty likes to provoke to get a reaction, after how I see him. I think he just wants you to have your own opinion and stand your ground on what your openion is. So please don't be sad, just continue to articulate what you think/feel. (Sorry Blatant if I wrote something that is not the real you).
@Helgafy thank you for the consolation.
@Sanvee11
You're so welcome my friend.
