@Ildry
Yes, I believe so, and the only reason I believe in this, is because I think I am like that also.
While it is maybe "hooman" to expect something, even an acknowledgement or a thanks, after helping someone or doing something for someone, I don't think it should be the basis of your intent behind helping them or doing something for them.
Keeping a score and a count of what you do/ did for others is a concept that goes way beyond my head. Keeping a track to someday tell the person you've given/ done something for doesn't make sense to me. (':
Personally, I feel, true giving is when you give without any expectations.
The only motivation in giving then lies in your core-personality ie. of being a naturally giving person and no one can take this away from you, no external factors (or lack thereof) affect your giving/ willingness to be there for someone, whereas on the other hand, people who expect things in return, stop giving after a while when they don't receive something in return, since not everyone has the same heart, of a giver, consistently, hehe!
Now, some could argue here that "hey how can you say you don't get anything in return?" and they are right too, I feel, a naturally giving person, doesn't expect anything and doesn't give just to receive something back but is very much capable of experincing/ feeling a sense of gratitude and content, which is a very personal experience for them, and very naturally so. Something they *feel* rather than something they "get". Much like, to only value the intrinsic/ self-validation (personal sense of gratitude and content) rather than an extrinsic sense of validation (a thanks or a revert gift/ help/ action from others).
Thank you for allowing some reflection here! What are your thoughts about the same?
Thank you so much for answering me.
I think there are ppl that do thinks expecting nothing in return, and ppl that disguise it, but yeah I agree that those get tired easily.
I just find complicated differentiate the real ones from the fakes
@Ildry
I'm glad you're on a similar page about this, and of course, this was quite a reflective thought to ponder upon!
It makes sense to find it complicated to distinguish between what's genuine and what isn't, personally, I believe in "kindness begets kindness" (as altruistically as it sounds), and so I'm only accountable for my karma, cannot control or manipulate other people's actions or intentions, people will anyway do what they want hehe, what I feel, we can do is to allow them to be themself, if "themself" aligns with our comfort and tolerance, all good, however if it doesn't, then there's a need to set boundaries and incorporate distance. Life is way too short to be around people who cannot even be true to themself! (':
Just my two cents on this hehe, I'd love to hear more about your thoughts on people not being genuine about their intentions, and if there's anything you've found helpful (even a little counts) in trying to distinguish the real ones from the ingenuity and mock-ups, if you'd like to share! :)
@Ildry
It is not that there are people who don’t expect something in return. Think of it like that. The people who we think don’t expect anything from others after helping, actually already got something in return. The moment they help someone, they get satisfaction in return. These people gets satisfaction from being helpful to others or gets happiness from other’s happiness. So to answer your question in a philosophical way. There’s no one in the world who don’t expect something in return when helping others.
My rational side thinks people can help without expecting something in return, but my emotions tell me people just want to use me.
@Ildry
I believe so! There are many times i helbed someone who could give me nothing in return but they needed my kindness and helb and i gladly gave it to them. I think embathetic beoble are usually like that.
What i get in return is a good feeling that i just helbed someone. Its nothing selfish.