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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit October 15th, 2018

Disability has a bit of an dIsability And work event going on for the month , so heres my forum discussion this time. We will go back to my regular ones after the event , welcome to join in anytime. When someone new joins us ill tag you in the next question, so you know a new one was posted.

Lets begin with an Icebreaker

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What is the first thing you thought about when you woke up today?

@creativeOak9590 @purpleHeart16 @RaspberryCup8692 @TheLifeOfKelli @finnthewaffle @1Marg1 @sympatheticNorth2026 @Leeshalyn @GusteeMoon123 @Emily1256 @warmheartedSoul77

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User Profile: kindSoul10
kindSoul10 October 15th, 2018

What is the first thing you thought about when you woke up today?

"Eek, I need to get up!"

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 15th, 2018

@kindSoul10 lol ik that feeling some mornings what did you feel in rush for today

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User Profile: kindSoul10
kindSoul10 October 15th, 2018

@CaringBrit morning routine 😊

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CaringBrit OP October 15th, 2018

@kindSoul10 aww

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User Profile: CrickettheSilent
CrickettheSilent October 15th, 2018

I just want to stay home

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 15th, 2018

@Emily1256 aww

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User Profile: RaspberryCup8692
RaspberryCup8692 October 16th, 2018

@CaringBrit

The person I care about...then whether or not my cat was on the bed, lol

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 16th, 2018

@RaspberryCup8692 aww cute about the cat and love that response

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 16th, 2018

new Question then everyone anyone new is welcome to still join and respond to previous questions if you do then please put the question your answering before response

Our discussion today focuses on work and employment for disabled people.

So the first question is do you have a job?

If you do what is your Job?

if not what sort of Job do you want or are seeking for?

@creativeOak9590 @purpleHeart16 @RaspberryCup8692 @TheLifeOfKelli @finnthewaffle @1Marg1 @sympatheticNorth2026 @Leeshalyn @GusteeMoon123 @Emily1256 @warmheartedSoul77 @kindSoul10

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User Profile: Emily619
Emily619 October 16th, 2018

@CaringBrit

While I am not currently employed, I usually have a summer job with my state's university's college of agriculture. It's not my ideal job after I get a degree, but it does pay well compared to other nearby jobs. I'm currently a student so I'm not actively job searching right now, but I'm considering applying for a cashier job after school to earn some money to put toward tuition. After college is finished, I'd love to either work in mental health or secondary education

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 16th, 2018

@Emily619 awesome that it pays well lots of great goals in there too

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User Profile: Darkseed
Darkseed October 16th, 2018

@CaringBrit

Yes, Business Analyst/Pin Cushion

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 16th, 2018

@Darkseed oh nice job the first one that is

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User Profile: RaspberryCup8692
RaspberryCup8692 October 17th, 2018

@CaringBrit

Currently I'm on Long Term Disability...I've been on sick leave for about a year after being diagnosed with Lupus and Sjogren's, plus other autoimmune stuff.

Before I got sick I was a detailer/draftsperson for structural steel joists and roof decking, mostly using AutoCAD.

I'm hoping to eventually get well enough to go back to work, or find something I can do from home.

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User Profile: kindSoul10
kindSoul10 October 18th, 2018

@RaspberryCup8692 I wish you all the best for your recovery!

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User Profile: RaspberryCup8692
RaspberryCup8692 October 18th, 2018

@kindSoul10 Thank you, I appreciate your kind words :)

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@RaspberryCup8692 aww no wish you a speedy as you can get recovery

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User Profile: Lilibuth12
Lilibuth12 October 19th, 2018

@CaringBrit

Our discussion today focuses on work and employment for disabled people.

So the first question is do you have a job?
Yes :D <3

If you do what is your Job?
I am a Tech Lead :D Which means I program websites and manage people :) Which I find super fun hehe.

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User Profile: TransAm85
TransAm85 October 16th, 2018

Yes, I have an auto shop w/my husband. I am an auto tech assistant, but I am also responsible for the paperwork/invoices.

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 16th, 2018

@TransAm85 nice how are you enjoying it

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User Profile: TransAm85
TransAm85 October 16th, 2018

@CaringBrit I'm sick of it! lol I have epilepsy, just partial seizures but I call them black outs. Stress and time of the month triggers them. I wish I could just go on a vacation for a month or something ..

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 16th, 2018

@TransAm85 aww

User Profile: kindSoul10
kindSoul10 October 18th, 2018

@TransAm85 keeping my fingers crossed for you to find time to go on vacation!

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User Profile: TransAm85
TransAm85 October 22nd, 2018

@kindSoul10 Aw thanks. Maybe if we save enough money, we could go somewhere for Christmas.

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User Profile: Emily619
Emily619 October 16th, 2018

The first thing I thought of was getting my braces off! Super glad to finally feel my teeth after lots of years smiley

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@Emily619 yayy

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User Profile: Darkseed
Darkseed October 16th, 2018

@CaringBrit

Death

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CaringBrit OP October 16th, 2018

@Darkseed oh no everything ok

User Profile: RaspberryCup8692
RaspberryCup8692 October 17th, 2018

@Darkseed
Hope you are doing okay Darkseed!

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User Profile: Jill7Cups
Jill7Cups October 17th, 2018

What is the first thing you thought about when you woke up today?

SNOOZE cheeky

And then all the things I needed to do before work

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User Profile: kindSoul10
kindSoul10 October 18th, 2018

@Jill7cups snooze , I have a love and hate relationship with it XD

User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@Jill7cups lol i know the feeling in reguards to wanting to just snooze

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User Profile: Jill7Cups
Jill7Cups October 18th, 2018

@CaringBrit @kindsoul10

Snooze is both the best and the worst thing. I wish I was a morning person, my whole family is. They wake up so happy and refreshed. And I feel like the crypt keeper.

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@Jill7cups aww ik the feeling i hate mornings

User Profile: kindSoul10
kindSoul10 October 19th, 2018

@Jill7cups hahaha. Well then I guess both of us are crypt keepers.

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Jill7Cups October 19th, 2018

@kindSoul10 lol

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

our next question sorry this is late im going to post 2 questions 1 for wednesday 1 for today its thursday here. New people always welcome to join in but please if you respond to older questions post the question your answering too within your post

Peoples of all abilities must have access to good, safe jobs: do you feel like you have this opportunity where you live?

Have you ever felt that co-workers or anyone else at work has treated you with discrimination?

@creativeOak9590 @purpleHeart16 @RaspberryCup8692 @TheLifeOfKelli @finnthewaffle @1Marg1 @sympatheticNorth2026 @Leeshalyn @GusteeMoon123 @Emily1256 @warmheartedSoul77 @kindSoul10 @TransAm85 @Darkseed @Emily619

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User Profile: Emily619
Emily619 October 18th, 2018

@CaringBrit

From what I've seen, and from living in the United States, most people thankfully tend to have equality in the work place thanks to the Americans with Disability Act and Social Security. I've thankfully never been discriminated either, and I'm happy to say that I don't see it occur very often to others!

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@Emily619 yayy thats awesome Emily glad to hear you havent felt discriminated against nor seen it happen very often

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User Profile: kindSoul10
kindSoul10 October 18th, 2018

@CaringBrit in 2017 26,838 cases about disability and workplace discrimination has been reported to the The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

That's 31.9 percent of charges filed in 2017. So out of roughly 32 of 100 discriminations happen because of a disability.

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@kindSoul10 thats a huge number

User Profile: Jill7Cups
Jill7Cups October 18th, 2018

@kindSoul10 @caringbrit

Wow really is a large number. Seems like employers need to better understand how to accomodate.

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@Jill7cups i agree they definetly do

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User Profile: AffyAvo
AffyAvo October 18th, 2018

@Emily619 I think in North America what we often see in the workplace is something like this where equality is being achieved:

Source: Out Front Minnesota

It's not equity though, people with disabilities are often working harder for the same as others or else they aren't being compensated the same. For example, if 2 people are getting paid the same amount for producing a widget, but one has a disability where it slows them down, the person with the disability doesn't have the same earning potential as the one without. So there is equality, but not equity. Some of this is extremely direct, but some of it is not. For example, you could compare my hourly wage to someone else's where they are capable of working full time, and I am not. We might make the same hourly rate, but I will not be able to make as much as they are. On top of that, they are able to get benefits, which do have a monetary value. So their rate of pay when that is factored in is them actually more than mine on top of them being able to earn more.

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User Profile: AffyAvo
AffyAvo October 18th, 2018

I do have a pretty good job, but I feel like this type of job is extremely limited. I also do not think it would be possible to obtain a job at this point where I could meet all of my needs from what I would be able to earn.

I haven't felt like individual people have treated me with discrimation at my current job, but I have had issues in the past. Policies do have some legal discrimination within them. For example, I get no benefits because I am unable to work enough hours. Some of the drug policies also clearly discriminate, but I don't think all discrimation is bad, and there is a reason why some of ti is legal.

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@AffyAvo aww wether legal or not still must be tough being limited from benefits

User Profile: kindSoul10
kindSoul10 October 19th, 2018

@AffyAvo great posting affy!

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User Profile: Lilibuth12
Lilibuth12 October 19th, 2018

@CaringBrit

Peoples of all abilities must have access to good, safe jobs: do you feel like you have this opportunity where you live?
I think it is definitely acheiveable where I am, however I am very lucky in the fact that I am in a high demand, low supply industry where employeers are willing to put up with more because they need good people. I have found other people especially in less skilled jobs really struggle to be accessable and safe. I have found bosses will often pray on disabled people as well at work as they are easy targets that can find it harder to fight back which makes me angry. Also attendance often becomes everything and with my migraines/PTSD I don't think I could keep a job that doesn't let me work from home regularly.

Have you ever felt that co-workers or anyone else at work has treated you with discrimination?
Its not been obvious. But yes. People talk to me about burn out like I am over stressed or treat me as though I can't cope in certain situations when the reality is that my migraines are not something I have control over, and do not seem to be linked to stress at all as far as I have been able to tell. It makes me feel... idk... people judge me as less? Because I have to work from home etc. Though saying that I had a big review today and none of that was communicated to me at all, so it could just be feeling sensitive to it because its something I feel vunerable about!! People do talk about me being unhealthy as though its something I could fix if I ate right or something... its like... you think I haven't tried that mate? xD

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User Profile: Darkseed
Darkseed October 18th, 2018

Oh this is so hard. I had a job a few years ago that didn't have a computer or work space for me, so they put me in the breakroom. They were clamoring for work to be done, and couldn't do it efficientily or in a timely manner. My boss was abusive. My primary care provider helped me with an ADA reasonable accomodation request. The boss was outraged and treated me even worse than before. Worse than they she paraded me around a room to people in the room and said 'so where do you want to sit where you would feel comfortable enough to do your job!?' I was shocked. I filed an internal complaint against her, and a week later, they tried to fire me. Things got ugly when i said it was retailiation based on a disability, and they forced me to put in a post dated resignation. Fortunately, i had been looking for another job,

Now, I'm in a simliar situation. I'm in offices where the computer equipment is inadequate to do the job, and I have no designated place to sit. It's causing extreme mental distress, and I'm going through the process again for a reasonable accomodation with my primary care provider. Will this again disintegrate my relationship with my boss? Will they again try to fire me? I SWEAR this time, I will sue this place if they try that. I don't have the energy remaining to continue fighting like this when people so frequently break employment laws and get away with it. :(

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User Profile: CaringBrit
CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@Darkseed oh wow id have sued the first place for breaking the law i really hope 2nd place aint like that dark

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User Profile: Darkseed
Darkseed October 18th, 2018

@CaringBrit

I was scared the first time and under the influence of a lot of lithium.

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CaringBrit OP October 18th, 2018

@Darkseed oh no being scared cant of been easy

User Profile: Darkseed
Darkseed October 18th, 2018

@Darkseed

I was TOO scared the first time under the lithium and was crying when they were forcing me to put in a resignation notice. I wish I had of been stronger and walked out and went directly to talk to a lawyer.

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User Profile: kindSoul10
kindSoul10 October 19th, 2018

@Darkseed you didn't feel well, it's normal to react this way. heart

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