Either they ghosted me... or they're dead
So... thank you in advance to whoever might read this.
I've been trying to wrap my head around this for weeks. It's more confusing and it hurts more than anything I've ever experienced.
I'm not good with relationships, friendships and all that irl, so my two best friends are... well or were... an online friendship, the two of them were a couple and I was their friend. It felt like we were a family, they were my home, the only ones that ever made me feel like I belong. I never had such a deep bond with anyone ever before.
And then they vanished, one a couple weeks before the other. It's like they disappeared from the internet completely, it's not just me, they didn't just leave me, as far as I can tell or check, they're really gone, completely. My heart's racing while I'm typing this. Because I don't have the slightest clue what happened. I made a million assumptions by now, in my head there's a whole novel consisting of ever new stories of what might have happened. My head and my heart want to find an answer so bad but it's impossible. Only they could tell me what really happened, what's currently happening.... but they're gone. And they might never come back and I might never get any answers.
Realistically..... or no idea, I lost sight of what might actually be realistic... but I do believe something serious happened, something real bad. Both of them haven't been in a good place, neither mentally nor physically, one was in a much worse state than the other though. So my guess is, at least one of them died. If the other is stil alive, he's.... I don't wanna know what he's like. They had such a symbiotic relationship I can't imagine either of them will ever recover if the other's dead.
And I'm going through the worst emotional roller coaster ever. Some days I'm sure they're dead and grief is hitting me so hard and it hurts so bad like nothing I've ever felt before. Sometimes I think it's just temporary and they WILL come back one day and explain things, I just need patience and persistence. Sometimes I feel like I'm losing my mind over this cause I just dunno what happened and this uncertainty makes me wanna scream.
I know you can't help me, I know you can't tell me the answers either.... but God I just don't wanna be alone in this mess, I just want someone to read this, anyone.... I feel so lost and I can't get through this all alone. I guess Iainly just need to talk about this for a bit and feel like I'm being heard.... I guess it might hurt a little less if I wasn't all alone anymore.
Thank you for reading. <3
@bestBanana7981
I hear you. I really do. And I want you to know that you are not alone in this, even though it might feel that way right now. What you’re going through is heartbreaking losing people who felt like home, without any closure, without knowing why it’s the kind of loss that lingers in the worst ways. The uncertainty, the not knowing, it’s like an open wound that won’t heal because your mind keeps searching for answers that might never come.
It makes complete sense that your emotions are all over the place. Some days grief feels unbearable, other days hope creeps in, and in between, there’s that gnawing anxiety, that feeling of losing your grip on reality. That’s not you being irrational that’s just what love and loss do to us.
I can’t tell you what happened, and I wish I could take away the pain, but what I can tell you is that your feelings are valid. Your love for them was real, and just because they’re gone wherever they are that love doesn’t just disappear. It mattered. It still matters.
I hope, with time, the pain becomes softer. I hope you find ways to honor the love and connection you shared, even without answers. And I hope you remind yourself that you are not alone. You deserve support, kindness, and people who will sit with you in this grief, even if all they can do is listen.
I’m here, reading this, hearing you, and holding space for you. You are not alone.
@16peacefulBraveheart01
Thank you... I'm sitting here sobbing cause yes that's exactly what it's like, the situation, how I'm feeling, everything. Thank you for your quick reply, it means a lot, I really needed this. <3
@bestBanana7981
Glad to hear that you're feeling better 🤗
So today would've been our 6th anniversary. But the day's almost over and of course they're still gone... and I suppose you can't have an anniversary with a nonexistent person. Celebrating 6 years of a friendship can only work if the friendship's still alive.
I've been scared of this day. But it didn't hit me as hard as I was afraid it would. I suppose that's because it hasn't been the first time. So now, for once, I was prepared. I was sure no one would text me.
Not getting any message for Christmas or New Year's or Valentine's hit me much harder... cause I didn't really see it coming. It used to be completely normal we'd send each other something... nothing super big, just a personalessage or some cute gif... just to show we appreciate the other. Especially Valentine's hit me hard. Cause where they live it's like a "general appreciation day" I guess... not only for lovers, not just a romantic thing... but you'd send a little something to everyone you care about, no matter if it's a family member, a friend or your bf / gf... it's about love in general. So it hurt super bad to not hear anything from them that day.
I guess Valentine's also was the day I started believing this might be something really serious. Back when they didn't text me for Christmas or New Year's, I was mainly angry, I felt hurt and rejected... I was wondering why they're ignoring me, if I suddenly don't mean anything to them anymore. I mean, I can't really imagine what it's like to have a Burnout or severe depression and whatever other serious mental and physical symptoms, so maybe it wasn't fair to be angry. But back then I really felt like... no matter what they're suffering from right now, that's no valid reason to make me feel like they literally couldn't care less about me. Were friends anyway and it's just no reason to forget about me. So yeah... I guess I was hurting in a different way back then, I was mad at them for doing this to me.
But after Valentine's, the actual real grief set in. Because in a way this is getting too big and it's been lasting too long so I could keep believing... they're "just too busy with their own bs" to notice I still exist. I can't imagine they'd go THIS far with it. Like we've been real close for years, we've been through all sorts of drama together and nothing could tear us apart, we'd always find a way to make it through, our bond was ALWAYS stronger than all the bs the universe threw at us. And I refuse to believe that after all that, with everything that connects us... they would just decide I don't matter to them anymore and their life consists of more important stuff than me. I do believe humans are capable of everything but... they were not two of those "untrustworthy average humans", they were special, all three of us were, our bond was. And I just don't wanna believe they could just drop me like in fact I don't mean a thing to them.
So after Valentine's, things turned to a different direction. I still can't grasp the whole extent of it all.
It's like we used to be some kind of solar system, a weird one with a weird gravity, cause it's hard to tell who actually was the sun. Sometimes there was one sun and two planets circling around it, sometimes there were two suns and one planet. One of my friends almost never was the sun cause he was very used to and very good at keeping everything bottled up. So I guess most of the time either my other friend, or me, or both him and me were the sun.
But now there's no sun and no planets in my life anymore. I'm the one tiny planet that's left, drifting aimlessly through the universe... and it's a real huge, empty, cold, black space and I dunno where I'm going and why. <3
I wrote this about a month ago... poetry, apparently... 😅🫣
I never thought this would ever be
My reality
That this could happen eventually
The both of you leaving me, simultaneously
I'm fighting to keep my sanity
I lost all my stability
No chance to ever fill the gap
All I want is for you to come back
All I want is to know you're there
All I want is to know you care
And there are topics we can share
But I can't make you wanna reconnect
I can't make you wanna interact
I can't make you wanna stay friends
It's not a decision placed in my hands
So is this where the story ends?
There's just nothing I can do
How you spend your time is up to you
So I guess I need to get used to this life
Cry these stupid tears and survive
It's dependency, stupidity
Thinking you're my home and my family
Thinking you'd always be here with me
And that we'd be one another's priority
But with people there's no reliability
Everyone leaves you eventually
I just never thought this would ever be
My reality
We feel alone at times but God never put nothing on us we can bare. Did they pass away? Or just can’t find them ?
@Jamiehill
Yeah, that's exactly the open question.... one of the many open questions. :/
I tried to explain it all in the first post of this thread - the situation, what happened, how I'm feeling. So I guess from now I'll just write whatever I need to talk about to get it out of my system, hoping this is a place where I'm not alone with it all and that sometimes people will read it all and maybe can relate.
@bestBanana7981
I understand your pain, and I want you to know it will be okay. I had a scenario similar, not the same, but similar, a few months ago. In this community, nobody will judge your feelings, so fell free to talk to a listener, make a new page, vent on this page (or don't if u aren't comfy with it). Either way, whatever you do, remember that this community is supportive and will help you through this. Sending hugs (If they are okie) 🤗
-Wishing you luck in the world, Lunar
@LunarTheTherian
Thank you for the validation and making me feel welcome and like this is the right place for me. <3
I'm sorry to hear you had to make a similar experience. How did it turn out for you? Did you ever find out why they left or if they died? Did they ever come back? What did you do to come to terms with it?
I think I'll stick with this thread for now... it's a bit like journaling just less lonely :). I journal irl too, it helps me to turn my often chaotic thoughts into something that makes sense and has a structure. I've journalled a lot about this thing too... but in a way it feels like I'm talking to myself. Well maybe cause that's what it is, right...! 😅 It doesn't really feel like I'm getting things out of my system.
But this is different. I post my thoughts *somewhere*, it's no longer only in my head. It's like it actually exists somewhere outside of myself. I guess I don't really need replies all that much, in the first place I'm glad this place exists. Sometimes I feel so much and it hurts so bad it's like I'm about to burst... and knowing I can come here and put it here is like a huge relief. <3
And actually getting replies is almost like... I dunno how to put it... like the very same thing that made me lose everything, my deepest bonds, the center of my life... now that very same thing makes me find something, find support, a safe place.
I'm almost crying while I'm typing this cause it's such an intense and emotional topic. But I'll try focus on being glad this place exists. <3
@bestBanana7981
Lol, I can definitely agree with u on that one! Having a safe place to vent and journal is nice, especially with all the supportive people. I journal irl too, but mine is like a sketch journal. For me its just more calming to skecth becuz I canot speel.
well, if you do wanna know about my similar experience, I wasn't ghosted, it just...happened. A few months ago, like in October, my cousin was in mental pain. Like, her boyfriend just broke up with her, and it kinda just broke her. My other cousin Uylssa would always be there for her. I tried too but we live like 30 minutes from each other. A few night later, Uylssa called me, she seemed pretty worried. She has hear my other cousin, Autumn, was crying in her room. She had told me that she had stabbed herself slightly with a pencil, and then they had a conversation about it. A few night after that (Plus a sleepover) Uylssa called me, panicked. She sounded very sad too. I asked her what was wrong, and then I had figured out that Autumn had shot herself with her mother's pistol. Now knowing this, I instantly rushed over to her house as quick as I could, because they were sisters. Uylssa is in a lot of pain right now. I am too, but i'm more worried about her.
It's not exactly like your situation, but I kind of understand the pain your going through. I hope your doing okay today :D
@LunarTheTherian
Oh man that sounds a lot like something hat could've happened in our friendship too back when we still were in touch. We've been in a lot of situations like that, one of them getting retraumatized by whatever bad, triggering occurrence, SH being involved, being super worried or even panicking about what's going on, trying to support each other while actually needing support yourself. So nah, it's not exactly the same but it sounds super familiar. Maybe these triangular friendships / bonds tend to be tricky like that.
And who knows, maybe one of my friends recently died in a similar way like your cousin. It's not exactly unlikely... he's tried it in different ways... I think 4 times since he was a teen. Hasn't worked in the past... but maybe the 5th attempt actually did. Who knows, really.
But I do hear ya with all that intense chaos and all the intense feelings going on... I hope you'll find the time to focus on yourself a little bit in the midst of all this, to take care of yourself and listen to yourself... to be your own friend, kinda. It's never easy when others are involved and it kinda feels like everyone else is worse off than you... it seems to be way easier to invalidate or just ignore yourself.
I do hope things will calm down and ease off with time for you and your family. You're not alone either. <3
From what I know once person ghosted
they never came back :(
I also didn’t get explanation like u n was shocked that one day they stopped…….
@livbinny
Yeah... I guess for me, the most unsettling thing is that I don't know if they ghosted me. It's just one option out of... 8362174 🫨. It's just an assumption. It might be true or it might be nonsense. Everything's possible. They might be in the hospital or in a psych ward, maybe they had a car accident, maybe one of them is in a coma and the other has two broken arms. Maybe they needed surgery. Maybe it's an episode of severe depression or a bad burnout.
It might be something temporary and they might come back one day or it's over for good. They might have disappeared because of whatever mental or physical illness. And looking at how their life has been going all this time, really everything's possible, even the most dramatic scenarios.
So yeah... what's making the situation so hard is exactly this uncertainty. It's perfect confusion, the absolute lack of any information or knowledge.
But I'm super sorry you got ghosted and that they did not come back and you did not get any explanations at all. That's probably the worst... worst case scenario. I'm really sorry. <3
Yeah it was worst yk why?
:( I fell into deep self pity for months
nothing but self pity frustration n anger
ppl used me for my caring nature for being too open n trusting n took me for granted but also used me for my positivity
then after weeks to one month they always disappeared
some of them even sooner
it happened countless times
i didn’t know this is subtle abuse or similar like red flag
cuz they didn’t like judge or weren’t rude but this was certainly the stab to my back :(
have u encountered such self pity while dealing w this?
I know ur case lil different but if ghosting is one of possibilities then I would say please let go n never go crazy for them :(
when I realized no one fought for me n left me alone i promised myself I’ll keep those boundaries at every cost n now im trying to be cautious n if I felt like it was giving too much again w one person that also didn’t take me seriously
i I stepped away n broke bond
but usually ppl always did hurt me rob me of my energy attention n fun side so I was never serious of value to them
if u see this
thx for listening to
my side
i know this post is abt u n im sincerely sorry that i dumped this here but i want u to know to not make same mistakes like i did n to be cautious with trust
its sad this is happening 💔💔
oh n I nearly forgot to add that I completely understand ur overthinking but I guess that’s what they want us to do :(
like I mean
yk how!?
I had this person that ghosted me horribly
i waited they might come back when suddenly they got “work” tones of work n disappeared
I believed its true not seeing them online
they went to invisible hidden mode not offline instead
i even created other me to test waters n they replied without rpoblem
i I was waiting like crazy I mean very naive that on Christmas they return or on holidays or they shoot message back but nothing
i left them tons of it
i was even worried since they had some health issues as well
but why care?
if those ppl leave
wont tell why
its not worth to have our hearts burned for them like this every day :( it’s what caused me this self pity once they all abounded me
so in my opinion
i knoow u worry like me
vut maybe it’s time to step back?
but
@livbinny
I don't know really.... but if I have anything like an intuition left, it's clearly telling me they didn't leave to hurt me. We were like a family for years, we were like soulmates. It was love, it was mutual and it can't just disappear. They were the most precious people I ever met and I'll always love them. They taught me what it's like to have real close bonds with someone, they gave me the best years of my life, my most precious memories. So no matter how confused I am and how big this uncertainty is... but I won't stop loving them. Ever. And I won't stop believing they loved me too and still do. 💞
But on the other hand... I dunno if it's self pity, but I can tell I'm very much hiding from all sorts of friendships and relationships now. Because I'm scared it all might happen again. I might let my guard down once again, I might let someone get close, get into my heart... I might get attached to someone again. And then they'll leave again and will rip off a piece of my heart. And again it'll hurt like it hurts now.
So yeah... right now I don't want any close relationships ever again. I guess it's self protection. It feels like the most dangerous thing and I'd rather spend the rest of my life with no friends... than having to go through this again. Like what I'm feeling right now.
I don't think it's self pity though. It just freakin hurts, your soul hurts, it's real. <3
So I know one of them is still alive. He was online somewhere a couple of times these days. I texted him but he didn't react. And if one of them is alive, there's at least a chance the other is, too. Because I still can't imagine one could survive without the other.
But as we haven't talked, I still don't know anything, I have no idea what's behind this. If they really just got fed up with me and ghosted me cause they don't want me in their life any longer... or if it happened for whatever other reasons. And I won't ever find out unless they tell me about it one day - of course that hasn't changed, either. So I won't judge them before they explain things to me... and in case they never will, I'll never know anything, but I'll never be in a position to judge them either.
So on the one hand, not much has changed... but on the other hand, a whole lot has changed. Mainly, as stupid as it might sound, I'm super glad relieved. Because I know for sure one of them isn't dead and it's at least somewhat likely the other's still alive, too. So nothing's over for good. If both of them are still alive, they might still have each other, which would be the most important thing really. :)
And if they're still alive at least there's still a small chance we'll continue our friendship one day. Maybe it won't happen... but maybe it will. And just this small chance is all I need so I can keep hoping, I guess. And it's all I need to make the grief ease off cause this might just be a temporary break. And even if they'll never return... at least I can live my life knowing they're still in this world, they're still around and we might talk again one day. :)
It doesn't really need to happen, I just need to know the option exists. It's way easier to come to terms with things like this. Trying to get used to the thought that they're really dead and that there's no chance I'll ever get to talk with them ever again hurt so much more.
As long as they're still alive and they got each other... nothing's lost. I just want them to become happy, or at least as happy as possible, to find happiness in life, to have a future together. I can accept everything else and find ways to handle the situation and continue to find my own happiness for myself, knowing they're doing the same somewhere. :) 💗