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User Profile: JPavesatanas
JPavesatanas February 7th, 2021

A lot to unpack. I feel like most of our marriage problems are cause by my wife's poor decisions, and me just going with it. Right now we have too many dogs, and I can't bring it up or say I'm frustrated. I can't bring up money.she never wants to deal with anything because she "doesn't feel well" or "not in the mood". It always ends of a yelling match. If I give an emotional response to anything it escalates. If I don't respond and give up, I'm being an asshole. Somehow a paradigm has been created where I feel like my wife is the only one who can do anything or make a decision because I'm "taking things over". Got to a point where I thought about the idea of suicide just to make it all stop. She refuses counseling. She say I'll just charm the therapist and make it all her fault. Idk. So much more. I just want out but I feel like I'd be leaving her high and dry.

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User Profile: J9802
J9802 February 7th, 2021

Hi It is definately difficult for you..but why dont you sit and talk.. just tell her what you feel ..like you mentioned the dog thing ..tell her she maybe upset at first but she is your wife she loves you she would understand.

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User Profile: dragonball4lyfe
dragonball4lyfe February 8th, 2021

Some times spouses are controlling and don’t care about the others feelings. I’m in here because my opinions are stupid and don’t matter, and I’m not allowed to have emotions.

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User Profile: JPavesatanas
JPavesatanas OP February 8th, 2021

Sorry to hear that. Its hard to feel constantly invalidated. You're not alone.

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User Profile: Vsand4569
Vsand4569 February 7th, 2021

I've dealt with this type of behavior before too. When I would bring up anything I was met with anger and defensiveness. The best thing I did in that situation was calmly explain that I want to explain my feelings and to please not feel personally attacked, but I've observed x,yandz, has made me feel xyandz. I want us both to solve these feelings. I don't want to turn it into an argument or point any fingers, but you're my partner and that means something and is so important to me. Brushing you off and being dismissive of your feelings is extremely hurtful and I really feel for you.

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lifeisbeautiful37 February 7th, 2021

This behavior sounds familiar. She may have some mental illness, hoarding or control issues. Does she control the finances? Why does she have so many animals? Just an animal lover? Or does she have hoarding tenendices and not able to care for them properly? What about individual therapy for herself? In the end, you decide how much you can handle. You have 2 obligations—one to your wife and one to yourself. Your wife’s behavior is unhealthy, and is now severely affecting your mental health. At this point I think you should shift your focus from what you don’t have control over (your wife and her issues) and what you do have control over (yourself). Maybe getting some therapy or support for yourself will help ease your suicidal thoughts. If they don’t get better, consider if you need to distance yourself from your wife because what’s worse—leaving your wife, or losing your own?? Sending wishes for hope and strength to you.

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JPavesatanas OP February 8th, 2021

I personally can't see her getting therapy or counseling for herself. I think she has a tendency to hoard. Its not like tv show extreme but there's a lot of pictures, and old school papers from her kids that are 20+ years old. But I'm a minimalist. I literally own 3 tshirts, 2 jeans, a hoodie, a jacket, 4 pair of socks/undies, and 2 pair of shoes. All my other stuff: guitars, amp, accessories, computer, have been sold or lost in pawn over the years. Even the chromebook I got her Xmas she pawned and lost it. But that's another can of worms...

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JPavesatanas OP February 7th, 2021

Thanks guys. I've tried just talking and not being emotional or intense about it. It doesn't work. And it seems like when she wants to "have a talk" then we definitely have a talk. If I go the route of "if she loves me then she'll understand, or if you love me you'd listen" I feel like I'm being a narcissist, which I'm not sure that I'm not a narcissist, somewhat. Its like, either be quiet and let her do stuff how she wants or say something, anything and be the asshole, which is what led to me to disassociate and become apathetic in the first place. There have been times she has clearly gaslighted me, I recognized it on the spot, and either called her out on it, or just ignored it and wouldn't respond. She used the "there you go with those made up big words, I guess I'm stupid" sort of response. Feels like a damned if I do, damned if I don't situation.

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JPavesatanas OP February 7th, 2021

She may have issues of her own. Hoarding, possible adhd or ASD. Idk. She handles the bills because I'm at work, it's just easier time-wise for her to take care of it on my payday. I've offered to do it, but that was a clusterfuck. I find myself doing midlife crisis stuff. But trying to take care of myself more. Getting fragrance samples, colognes, to try new stuff. I bought a skateboard to try a new hobby, to challenge myself, and for fitness. I ride a bicycle everyday to and from work (only a mile). But I'm really insecure about if I smell like dogs all the time so maybe that's it.

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JPavesatanas OP February 7th, 2021

Sorry I keep re-reading your guys' stuff and thinking of something new. I was on Prozac for over a year for ADHD and learned some coping mechanisms that work well. I've been off for a year because I felt like I was taking it for her, and to deal with my surroundings that I feel are caused by her decisions. I stopped taking it because I don't want to medicate just to deal with someone else's shit.

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dragonball4lyfe February 8th, 2021

My husband is like your wife. Everything has to be a fight and god forbid if you have feelings like a normal human. We are “fighting”now because he doesn’t understand why I got mad over him asking me if I was thirsty and offered a drink I said yes too and then said you don’t need it while driving pass it

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0m February 8th, 2021

@JPavesatanas

I'm sorry to hear things have gotten to this point. Why do you feel you "owe" her tolerance of this behaviour?

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JPavesatanas OP February 8th, 2021

I don't. Its just at a point where I feel like it's not my problem anymore, like I shouldn't have to deal with, fix, or mabager HER problems. On the other hand, I feel like a total failure if we split up. And since she doesn't bring in much money I'd be leaving her with nothing. Idk. Am I being too nice? Should I really just say "fuck it" I can't do this anymore? Thing is I'm sure that I'm part of the problem, too. Neither of us is blameless. I'm super picky about things, I nitpick, I'm quick to correct people...

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0m February 8th, 2021

@JPavesatanas

You're absolutely right, it's rarely ever just one person responsible for the relationship situation. However, you're wanting to assess, discuss, analyze, correct. That is the missing link. There is no reciprocation from her in wanting to correct anything, or even in actually listening to your point of view.
1. Why do you feel like a total failure if you split up? It takes two to make a relationship work. No matter how hard one tries, it can't be done alone.
2. Why would you leave her with nothing? In a marriage, there are legal protections to ensure fairness if and when things don't work out.

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JPavesatanas OP February 8th, 2021

Nothing, as in no $. She only has a few hundred a month in SSI, but should getting her SSD any time now, which would be only a little less than I make. We also have a roommate that is on disability as well.

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0m February 8th, 2021

@JPavesatanas

If you're both agreed that any neutral party would say "it's her fault", why the confusion?

Sometimes, it's important to prioritize and respect your own boundaries. That leads the way to others respecting them too. I think our self help guide on boundaries might be useful to you.

https://www.7cups.com/boundaries/

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JPavesatanas OP February 8th, 2021

I think she's says all that so she doesn't have to take responsibility for it, for control, and to gaslight me, I guess.

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neonzebra529 February 8th, 2021

I came here because I worry that you’re my husband. And that I don’t know what he’s thinking and I’m scared that every comment he makes about something is him being disgruntled so I stress about him having to do something even though I need his help. He refuses any thought or idea of therapy though, while I keep looking for ways to help myself. He’s also been making other changes that are great, but his energy seems to be what ignites mine- and so conversations when he’s frustrated with something trying to explain what he wants done while he’s trustee about it are hard. But there are times when I will say I’ve got something on my plate that I’m working on, and he will get annoyed by it before I can do anything- which then turns into him trying to fix it- which bad ones frustrating because I had an intention/plan and he’s now taken over bs asking how he can help with it. Most of the time I try to breath a through the moments because I know he wants to help and I’m trying. To let him, but since he’s so disconnected (because of schedule, not totally by choice) he doesn’t take into account all the details needed over stupid things... which really, don’t need to be taken in account because I’m the one obsessing over it and not able to complete the task. I’m very adhd, and have bee suffering from an extraordinary amount of anxiety lately. I’m scared I’m going to make my husband resent me. I don’t know what advice to give you, but I’m sorry you two aren’t finding a way to communicate that works right now. It does sound like she might need some help but until she’s willing, that’s hard.

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JPavesatanas OP February 8th, 2021

Sometimes I do the "taking over" bit. Maybe because I can see up and be like, hey I get to do something,but then I go overboard and take it all over instead of actually helping. In my mind I'm helping, but I get overly intense and deep into things (adhd?). I like details, taking a little time to think through and visualize what I want to accomplish, but my wife is a Just Do It, Get it Done, kinda person. She has zero time for details, which sometimes makes her quite messy and IMO, wasteful. Kinda grinds my gears. We're total opposites as far as task management goes. And it drives her up the walls when I try to help and start mentioning "but what about this... Or, why are you doing this?...or Why don't you try this instead?" There's no room for any type of criticism or suggestion, constructive or otherwise. It funny, but not, that we get along fine as long as I don't get a hair up my ass and decide to take up doing certain chores or finances. I guess that's a bad thing? Right? I SHOULD be able to voice concerns about stuff without having to defend my feelings or opinions as if suddenly she's a victim... Sorry. I vent and rant. I empathize with you. Maybe your situation would actually benefit from a casual conversation. He might feel like when he can help, it's at least SOMETHING he can do for you, and just takes it too far?

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