Boob normalization and equal rights, he wants to see them and gives me reasons on why it shouldn't be a private area along with all equal rights
So basically me and my ldr boyfriend (6 months together) he asked if he could see my boobs, here is what happened, if it would be ok I would really like some advice on what to do, an the petname master, is none kink, only a petname an none sexual at all sorry it's out of date. [14/6, 21:06] Daniel: I wanna see your breasts one day [14/6, 21:06] Daniel: Haven’t seen that yet [14/6, 21:06] Leah: Yesh [14/6, 21:06] Leah: Me woof u [14/6, 21:06] Daniel: Will you ever show them one day? [14/6, 21:07] Leah: If u want me to [14/6, 21:07] Daniel: It’s up to you [14/6, 21:07] Leah: I think I might get the fear again tho [14/6, 21:08] Daniel: It’s less private than your vagina tho [14/6, 21:08] Leah: Ik dat [14/6, 21:08] Leah: But I'd still feel unease [14/6, 21:09] Daniel: That’s like saying fear for men’s nipples but fear with breast’s which are kinda the same thing [14/6, 21:09] Leah: Oh [14/6, 21:10] Leah: Idk me sorry [14/6, 21:10] Daniel: Yeah so you really shouldn’t feel nervous Over something you see all the time [14/6, 21:10] Leah: I'm sorry ur right [14/6, 21:10] Leah: Me love u [14/6, 21:11] Daniel: Love you too [14/6, 21:11] Leah: But the anxiety might show idk master the feelings might take over [14/6, 21:12] Leah: Just I dont want them to take over [14/6, 21:12] Daniel: I’ll help you through it [14/6, 21:12] Leah: I would like that a lot [14/6, 21:12] Leah: Thank chu [14/6, 21:12] Daniel: You’ll feel better afterwards [14/6, 21:13] Leah: But how can u help me [14/6, 21:13] Daniel: I’ll support you a lot, because I like you a lot [14/6, 21:13] Leah: Are u sure I can do it [14/6, 21:14] Daniel: Yep [14/6, 21:14] Leah: Me just dont know when to do it [14/6, 21:15] Leah: I might end up not being able to do it due to anxious [14/6, 21:15] Daniel: Idk when you feel oki [14/6, 21:15] Leah: That might take a while tho [14/6, 21:15] Daniel: As usual [14/6, 21:16] Leah: I'm sorry [14/6, 21:16] Daniel: It’s way less private than your vagina, it shouldn’t be that much of a biggie [14/6, 21:16] Daniel: You see nipples all the time, so what’s the difference between nipples and breast’s if they are technically the same thing [14/6, 21:17] Leah: It's just what I feel on the inside thou the gut feeling [14/6, 21:17] Leah: Idk [14/6, 21:18] Leah: Emotions confuse me [14/6, 21:18] Daniel: It’s basically the same thing, there is no difference between them [14/6, 21:19] Leah: Idk if I can do it thou, anxiety might creep up on me an the feelings inside say no to do it [14/6, 21:19] Leah: But if it makes u happy [14/6, 21:19] Leah: Then [14/6, 21:19] Leah: I'll do it [14/6, 21:19] Leah: Only if it makes u happy [14/6, 21:20] Leah: Will it make u happy master? [14/6, 21:20] Daniel: Yes [14/6, 21:20] Leah: I'll do it [14/6, 21:21] Daniel: Oki so when [14/6, 21:21] Leah: Idk [14/6, 21:21] Leah: When I feel less anxious [14/6, 21:21] Leah: Idk how long [14/6, 21:21] Daniel: I don’t think that’s gonna happen [14/6, 21:21] Leah: Ik dat [14/6, 21:22] Leah: I cant seem to choose when to do it [14/6, 21:22] Daniel: Tmrw [14/6, 21:22] Leah: Bc I'll end up not wanting to do it [14/6, 21:22] Leah: I show it tmrw? [14/6, 21:22] Daniel: Idk [14/6, 21:23] Leah: *nuzzles* [14/6, 21:23] Daniel: Cuz I know you’re gonna whine a lot and make a big deal out of an everyday thing [14/6, 21:23] Leah: I'm sorry [14/6, 21:24] Leah: I don't mean to [14/6, 21:24] Leah: I've never done it before [14/6, 21:24] Leah: That's why [14/6, 21:24] Daniel: You gotta try it to know the results [14/6, 21:24] Leah: Never showed it to anyone [14/6, 21:24] Daniel: Again it’s all up to me to judge [14/6, 21:25] Leah: I just feel anxious [14/6, 21:25] Daniel: I’ll probably support you [14/6, 21:25] Daniel: Which I will [14/6, 21:26] Leah: Does it have to be tmrw? [14/6, 21:26] Daniel: Who knows [14/6, 21:26] Leah: Yea [14/6, 21:26] Leah: It just gonna be idk [14/6, 21:27] Daniel: Yeah we’ll see tmrw [14/6, 21:28] Leah: Me love u [14/6, 21:28] Daniel: Love you too [14/6, 21:29] Leah: I dont think I can do it [14/6, 21:29] Daniel: Yes you can [14/6, 21:29] Leah: Are u sure [14/6, 21:29] Daniel: Yep [14/6, 21:29] Leah: I just my body doesn't feel right tho [14/6, 21:31] Daniel: I’ll support it [14/6, 21:31] Leah: But it doesn't seem to wanna do it tho [14/6, 21:32] Daniel: I’ll make you feel better after you do it [14/6, 21:33] Leah: How [14/6, 21:33] Daniel: I’ll like it and make you feel good a lot and give you nice compliments [14/6, 21:34] Daniel: This is less private than your vagina [14/6, 21:34] Leah: But what about how i feel tho [14/6, 21:34] Leah: Shouldn't i listen to the feelings [14/6, 21:35] Daniel: Dependa to face your fears [14/6, 21:35] Leah: I'm sorry [14/6, 21:35] Leah: Its just [14/6, 21:35] Leah: Idk [14/6, 21:36] Daniel: It’s way less private than your vagina, you see men’s nipples and they don’t care, question is, why should you care about it [14/6, 21:37] Leah: Maybe bc it's my body [14/6, 21:37] Daniel: It’s just normal [14/6, 21:37] Daniel: Nothing that private tbh [14/6, 21:38] Leah: I just my body doesn't feel right tho [14/6, 21:38] Daniel: But why [14/6, 21:38] Leah: An boobs are a private area regardless tho [14/6, 21:38] Daniel: That begs my question [14/6, 21:38] Daniel: Why [14/6, 21:38] Daniel: If it’s literally the same thing as nipples [14/6, 21:39] Leah: Its just idk [14/6, 21:39] Leah: Never done it [14/6, 21:39] Daniel: If you ask me, that rule is private areas there, that’s kinda stupid [14/6, 21:40] Leah: I'm sorry ur right [14/6, 21:41] Daniel: I close my case, that I got very good reasoning of why it shouldn’t be a private area because it’s literally the same shit as nipples and despite regardless of fat people as well which seems to equality to female but yet that still ain’t private while females still is??? I am sorry but that just seems fucking retarded [14/6, 21:41] Leah: Im sorry [14/6, 21:42] Daniel: It’s okay, it’s just that whole thing is just fuckibg dumb with no equal rights [14/6, 21:43] Leah: *nuzzles* [14/6, 21:44] Daniel: *nuzzles back* I can’t be the only one who things this isn’t fair [14/6, 21:44] Leah: I'm sorry ur right [14/6, 21:45] Leah: Pls forgive me [14/6, 21:46] Daniel: I forgive you, it’s just this is not fair [14/6, 21:46] Leah: Ur right I'm sorry [14/6, 21:47] Daniel: It’s just biased af [14/6, 21:47] Leah: But what if I don't feel comfortable tho [14/6, 21:47] Leah: What do I do about that tho [14/6, 21:48] Daniel: That’s just suck tomfoolery and biased af [14/6, 21:48] Leah: I'm sorry [14/6, 21:48] Leah: I love u [14/6, 21:48] Daniel: Love you too [14/6, 21:49] Daniel: And the fact the it’s still counts as nudity for female breasts is just beyond me [14/6, 21:49] Leah: Yesh [14/6, 21:50] Leah: Ur right [14/6, 21:50] Leah: I love u master [14/6, 21:50] Daniel: Love you too and how are you still here [14/6, 21:50] Leah: Chu sure I'll be able to do iy [14/6, 21:51] Daniel: Yeah, I told you many reason why it should be normalized [14/6, 21:51] Leah: So it has be tmrw? [14/6, 21:51] Daniel: Yeah* [14/6, 21:52] Leah: But they might take ages to send [14/6, 21:52] Daniel: Who’s they? [14/6, 21:52] Leah: The messages might take a while [14/6, 21:53] Daniel: Like rn the messages send instantly during the whole day so I’m sure it’ll send [14/6, 21:53] Leah: Yeah same [14/6, 21:53] Leah: I feel stupid [14/6, 21:53] Leah: *nuzzles ur chest* [14/6, 21:54] Leah: Idk [14/6, 21:54] Daniel: It’s normal, that’s all
Your boyfriend is disrespectful towards you
@IshLeah69,
he is persuading and manipulating you to do something while it should be crystal clear to him you don't want to. Say no. If he accepts, cool. If he does not accept, then I would think twice whether he deserves you.
He's trying to manipulate you into it, please don't give in. If you're not comfortable yet he should respect that. He doesn't seem very considerate of your feelings so I would advise you to stand your ground and tell him no.
@IshLeah69 There is definitely no love between Daniel and Leah in this written transcript. The synopsis of this transcript is that Daniel is Leah's considered boyfriend. Leah also sees him as a master of some sort as well. In this transcript, Daniel is acting in very unilateral way with Leah. Daniel tries to convince Leah that showing her breasts to him is for her self-empowerment. Leah is reluctant to do so, so Daniel continues to try to convince her to do so. I say that in this transcript that Daniel is inconsiderate of Leah's feelings, boundaries and personal dignity. His behaviors here are self-serving.
He's manipulating you "only if it makes you happy" with something he knows he can use against you, because many women are passionate about equal rights, and pressurising you constantly, keeps telling you it has to be tomorrow (which I think can be classed as s*xual assault if your pressurised into it?). He's being sexist and if he really cared about equality he'd know that feminism is about women having a choice, not saying "you should be able to dress like men so that means it's my right to see you however I want whenever" I really think you should leave him and let him know that other girls aren't going to fall for his manipulative nature. It's so annoying when men only "care" about equality when it benefits them, like many only care about equal rights because they want to abuse women and say it's fine because "equal rights equal fights". Reading through his texts I think someone can be easily manipulated as he does seem to say things that are nice but it all goes back to him manipulating you, please don't be fooled and feel you have to stay if you don't want to. Please don't do anything you aren't okay with and I'm sorry to say but he doesn't truly care about you and doesn't care about how uncomfortable you are. @IshLeah69
@IshLeah69 I suggest looking into enthusiastic consent.
If someone started acting like me showing my breasts was the same as any man's nipples being out in, my enthusiasm for any form of undress would drastically decline.
What is public is what exists publicly and hopefully because someone has choosen that. I can decide my little pinky toe is much more private than my vagina. It doesn't matter if everyone else pulls their foot out and waves their pinky toe as a greeting. I may have difficulties in social situations based on that decision, but it's mine to make.
As for men's chests and women's yes there is inequality in society. Here the law does state that if one gender can go shirtless, everyone can. So in terms of nudity laws it's the same. Men don't typically have the same risks of being sexually harassed, assaulted, insulted, slut shamed etc. by going topless that women do. So societally there isn't equality that way and in most countries I think many more women keep their nipples private compared to men due to how society reacts.
this guy's a douchebag