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User Profile: HealingTalk
HealingTalk October 1st, 2023




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Images and portrait photos.

Images have a great power to bring back memories that remind us of our loved ones who are no longer with us.

Often those images are shown in photos, sometimes they are kept in our memory, or evoked by cherished objects or mementos.

These images serve as a window into the past, transporting us to a time when our loved ones we lost were still by our side.

An image might capture the essence of a person - their personality, their spirit, their soul. As we look at these images, we are reminded of the qualities that made them unique and so special to us.

Images evoke powerful emotions, inspiring us to reflect on the impact our loved ones had on our lives, and remind us to be grateful for the time we shared with them.

Images of them evoke beautiful memories, allowing us to relive cherished moments and keep them alive in our hearts.



Questions:

  • Do you keep images of the loved ones you lost? Are they in photos or just in your mind? Or maybe both?

  • How do you view those images? Projected in your mind? Or they are in view in a photo frame over furniture, hanging on the wall, or in a special place that memorializes them?

  • What scenes do those images depict? Are they portraits, candid scenes doing something, or vacation photos? What is the setting? What age were they?

  • How are you processing your grief these days?

  • How are you feeling now?


These questions are optional. You can add any comments you wish, as they come to your mind.


I look forward to your answers!

And I wish you all the best!

Marcelo.


Images:
Rembrandt, "Self Portrait".
Edgar Degas, "Head of a Young Woman".
Pablo Picasso, “Portrait of Gertrude Stein”.
Vincent van Gogh, "Self-Portrait with Straw Hat".

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User Profile: WinterRose9
WinterRose9 October 1st, 2023
  1. Yes i do
  2. I very much do every so often
  3. All the happy moments that we were blessed to have before they passed away
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User Profile: HealingTalk
HealingTalk OP October 1st, 2023

@PhoenixButterfly97


Hi, Butterfly!

Thank you for coming here and for your prompt answer! This is lovely of you!

How good that you keep images of them, so you can see them often!

And that these photos captured many happy moments you enjoyed with them.

I remember you told us in a previous check-in how much you miss them.

I hope that watching these photographs of those happy moments with them brings you some solace and is comforting to you.

Thank you again for coming to this check-in so promptly! I am grateful for that.

All the best, Butterfly!

See you around here soon!

Marcelo.


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User Profile: Tinywhisper11
Tinywhisper11 October 2nd, 2023

@HealingTalk no I don't have any photos😥 I didn't even get to bury him. I don't know what happened to his body after they killed him.😞

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HealingTalk OP October 2nd, 2023

@Tinywhisper11

How sad, Lola!

They were so cruel, they didn't even let you know his final place, nor keep a picture.

I hope that you can keep vivid images of him that you can project in your mind, of the best moments you had with him.

I hope that those images might comfort you in some way.

Maybe you can find other ways to represent him, like the cross next to the tree.

Something that connects both of you from the physical to the spiritual realm.

Both the tree and the cross are powerful symbols of life beyond any demise.

That all who suffered will be comforted in the end.

May justice, peace and love ultimately prevail.

Cherish the images of him that you treasure in your mind.

Much love, Lola!

I will pray for him and for you.

💜 💜 💜



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Tinywhisper11 October 2nd, 2023

@HealingTalk 🙂❤❤

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HealingTalk OP October 2nd, 2023

@Tinywhisper11


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User Profile: Aubreyssneakers
Aubreyssneakers October 2nd, 2023

@HealingTalk

-Yes,

-Also yes!

-He was always smiling so brightly :) He was an amazing person

-It's been hard, but I'll get over it someday

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User Profile: HealingTalk
HealingTalk OP October 2nd, 2023

@Aubreyssneakers

It's wonderful that you have those photos portraying him as the radiant person he was.

And that you watch them often!

His bright smile surely reflects the great person he was.

Holding to those images might be a beautiful way to keep his spirit alive in your heart. May his warmth and love continue bringing you comfort and strength in these sad times.

Though it's hard, I hope that you find moments of peace and solace, and that you start feeling better little by little.

Grieving takes time, be kind and patient with yourself.

You are very welcome to share about it in this community.

I wish you all the best in your journey!

See you around here soon!

Marcelo.


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User Profile: ScorchedRice
ScorchedRice October 2nd, 2023

My parents died within 10 months from each other. My mother died first. During those months, my father made it his personal quest not to think of her, not to feel her absence... and overall not to think and not to feel. He asked his friends to put away all the family pictures from everywhere in the house, and to save all the electronic ones into an external hard drive but to erase them from his phone.

It felt a little "violent" to me. Our apartment's walls were completely empty without the pictures. It looked like a different house, literally. I didin't say a word about it though. It was my first grief rodeo and perhaps that was the way things had to be done.

Then my father died and I had to move a couple of times. The framed photos were left in storage in someone's attic, but I moved around with the hard drive. It took me months to have some clarity and determination to open it up and look at the pictures. It was awful at first. A part of me understands why it was better not to have them around.

I relied on other visual things that reminded me of them. My mom's favorite color and her favorite plants. My father's favorite kanji. It was subtle but it was comforting.

But I started going over the hard drive and slowly but surely it was better and better. I've only printed one. My dad and my mom took a selfie just two days before she died. They had set the table for a dinner party and he was very proud of how it'd turned up. I like it because the way they looked at my dad's phone, one could think they are looking directly at me. Neither one is super smiley, which is how they naturally acted.


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User Profile: HealingTalk
HealingTalk OP October 4th, 2023

@ScorchedRice


How good to have you here again, ScorchedRice, and sorry for my delay in answering you.

I am impressed with the clear understanding you have of the very complex situations you lived.

Your life story is very moving.

I can imagine how devastating might have been to lose both your mother and your father within less than a year. And I assume it was not long ago.

You seem to have dealt with such a tremendous hit in a very healthy way. with much clarity, understanding and awareness of your feelings, and those of your father while he was alive.

In this context, it's striking what an important role images played. How powerful they can be, to the point of being overwhelming.

A controlled exposure to photos of your parents might be comforting, and more so with the passage of time.

But too much might be overwhelming and hurtful, crushing you with sadness. Not helpful at all.

So you were very wise in how you managed it. I admire you for that.

It seems that for your father grief was unbearable. And maybe cultural values played a role. Like not becoming "weak". And the ideal of "no attachment", that we should not feel attached to anything, not even our loved ones. For example, I have great respect and learned a lot from the teachings of the Buddha, but this aspect of his teachings always troubled me.

You have overcome and transcended that family and perhaps cultural pattern, achieving a very balanced approach, which accepts exposing yourself to images and objects that might comfort you but might also bring yousome sadness.

Like you see how healthy is to feel the natural emotions arising from real life, as sad as it might be, instead of trying to impose a fake indifference and dispassion.

I personally esteem authenticity as the highest value, even over happiness.

And from your previous, so unique and somehow fun story about the scorched rice, and this much more serious, tough, and finally melancholic account of how you navigated grief, I came to admire you a lot as a sensitive, balanced, authentic person.

A great achievement given the huge losses you suffered, the following upheaval, drastic changes in your life, and your young age.

So, all my admiration to you, and my wishes that such a jewel of a person, as you are, might build a great life full of peace and joy, and achievemets of the goals you set for yourself.

I feel privileged to have met you here.

I hope to see you around here soon, even for egotistic reasons, as you are so inspiring to me.

All the best, ScorchedRice!

Please keep in touch!

Marcelo.



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User Profile: SparkyGizmo
SparkyGizmo October 2nd, 2023

@HealingTalk

Hi Healing! 😊 ❤️ Many thanks for yet another amazing forum post! I really love how you brought up the topic of photo's, portraits as well as cherished objects and memento's.

I guess grief can come in many different forms. Loss for something or someone or many and they all can take on different avenues in the way in which the grief process is handled and as to why one is grieving in the first place.

1. Do you keep images of the loved ones you have lost?

I do keep images of those that I have lost.

2. How do you view those images?

For some that I have lost, I display framed photographs in my home as well as memento's, things that belonged to them. I give these things a place of honor and respect in my home. I view these items often and have chosen to "elevate the ordinary" from a design perspective (or what others would see as ordinary).

For a different type of loss with someone, I have kept images of them, but only much older photographs that were taken of them before I was ever born. These would be pictures of them that were taken before we ever "met", before I ever knew them, as they would be easier to look at if I choose to revisit those one day. These are kept in a file folder and any image of them that was taken after I was born I have removed from my home many years ago as well as any memento's, objects that once belonged to them.

I have the old photo's filed for reasons of heritage to pass along to others, should they want them one day or to even consider framing a few and putting them in my home. What they looked like before I had ever interacted with them, wouldn't bring back as many bad memories. Photo's of them as a child or as a teenager would be the easiest to see one day.

3. What scenes do those images depict?

For the items I have on display, they are wonderful memories of the people that have passed, those that I dearly miss and are images of beautiful moments.

4. How are you processing your grief these days?

I think well. One way that I have processed past grief was to take some very good advice that I had read years ago that was to "never keep anything in your home that is neither beautiful nor useful". Also, to "remove anything that has a bad or painful moment associated with it". Even if it's an object that may have monetary value, let it go, give it away, sell it, re- home it in some way, form or fashion for another to enjoy as gazing upon it for them, would be seen in an entirely different light.

5. How are you feeling now?

I'm feeling really great! Thank you for asking! ❤️

Again, many thanks for such an amazing forum post! Your posts are always so well thought out and questions provided that really get you to think about things and on a deeper level.

*high fives* 😊 and big *hugs* ❤️ I am grateful for you and for all that you do here on the platform! ❤️

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HealingTalk OP October 5th, 2023

@SparkyGizmo


Hi Sparsky!

I am sorry for such an unforgivable delay in answering you... 🙁

And thank you for your kind words!

I am glad that you have found this post so interesting.

To tell you the truth, I was surprised at the richness and depth of this topic, expressed in very thoughtful and subtle posts like yours.

How different people have so diverse experiences with images, with diverse meanings and impacts on them. With very good reasons in each case.

It's clear that you are very aware of the power of images and their strong influence on your wellbeing.

How some images are nourishing and comforting and others might be toxic, even triggering painful emotions.

I loved how you described the ways you honor the memory of loved ones who had a positive, healthy influence on your life.

And your wisdom, courage and determination to get rid of "valuable" objects that don't add value or might even be detrimental to your wellbeing. The idea is simple, but putting it into practice is hard, a great challenge almost impossible for most people.

So by making this effort (that most of us don't) you keep healthy your environment. In particular, you have a very nuanced and conscious management of your visual surroundings

It's remarkable how you have devised a thoughtful way of disarming the hurting effect of images from some negative people in your past, at the same time that you acknowledge they existed as part of your history. Like taking out the venom of poisonous animals so they become harmless, but you don't kiII them.

And how you respect the right of new generations to have records of their ancestry, as part of their identity. It will be for them to decide whether to visit the darkest branches of the tree. You have eased their way by taking out the most hurting thorns.

I also loved how you create value by relocating out of your house objects that might be emotionally draining for you, but might be an energizing source of enjoyment for someone else. Like an alchemist who turns lead into gold.

It's all an expression of your great spiritual fitness, I think, of knowing well what things nourish you and which are toxic, what to do about each of them, and having the determination and strength to actually do it, overcoming the natural tendencies and inertia to avoid it, the standard pattern for most of us.

I am impressed at how much I learned about you from an apparently very narrow topic. Amazing isn't it?

How it revealed your wisdom, strength and determination to do what it takes to live a good life.

I can't hide that I admire you for that.

Thank you for coming here, and taking the time and reflection to explain so clearly your very inspiring experiences and ways of doing things.

*high fives* 😊 and big *hugs* !!! 💜

See you soon around here!

Marcelo

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User Profile: SparkyGizmo
SparkyGizmo October 6th, 2023

@HealingTalk

❤️❤️❤️

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SparkyGizmo October 11th, 2023

@HealingTalk

I take the opportunity to keep up voting your post/reply to me! 😊 ❤️ I see the little "heart icon empty" and the site is allowing for me to do it sooooo...., well, I go in for it again! lol 😊

Before I up vote (compassion heart) your reply to me, I read it all over again! Your reply to me was nothing short of amazing! Feels so good to be heard, to be understood. I enjoy revisiting your response as you are the only person that has asked this question of me, ergo the only person that I have ever explained to, why it is that I do, what it is that I do. 

Thank you for caring about me. Thank you for taking so much time, thought and careful consideration in your response. ❤️

I wish 7 cups would bring back the "end of the year awards" and if they were to, I wish they would add a new category............."Best Forum Post response". I totally would vote for yours! Just Wow! ❤️

@7cupscommunity (Thought to consider and putting in my vote early) 😊

*high fives* 😊 and big *hugs* ❤️

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User Profile: HealingTalk
HealingTalk OP October 14th, 2023

@SparkyGizmo

Hi, Sparky!

Thank you for being so appreciative!

I was truly impressed by how thoughtful and determined you are. You value yourself as you deserve (but most of us don't unfortunately), and behave accordingly. 

Living the life we wish for ourselves takes wisdom, practical intelligence, and much courage. 

In the way you manage this very specific aspect of your life, namely your visual environment, you demonstrate that you have what it takes to live a great life. I just reflected on this great life lesson.

With your note of appreciation, I already won the hugely prestigious "Sparky Award" 🏆, and it made me super very happy!

Thank you again for being so kind, appreciative and encouraging!

See you soon around here!

*high fives* 😊 and big *hugs* ❤️

Marcelo.

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SparkyGizmo October 14th, 2023

@HealingTalk

❤️❤️❤️

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7CupsCommunity November 5th, 2023

@SparkyGizmo

We think badges and honors like these are instrumental in keeping the warmth alive in the community and thankful to peers as yourself for being a bright beacon of love and light around always. ❤

End of year awards were a success, weren't they?🥰 

Tagging our community coordinator so they recieve your vote, on including it again towards our year end celebrations this year as well. @CheeryMango 

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User Profile: SparkyGizmo
SparkyGizmo November 5th, 2023

@7CupsCommunity

Thank you my sweet friend, whomever you may be behind this screen! 😊 ❤️ I'm grateful for you and for your message to me today! ❤️ Thank you for "seeing" me and for seeing the value in me here on the platform. 

Probably a bigger deal to me than you may have thought at first blush. You really did make my heart *sing* ❤️ and made my eyes well up (😳 😊 more than just a little bit). I promise that your kindness and time for showing that you care, hasn't been wasted on me. 

I wrote your words to me on a post it note "being a bright beacon of love and light around always ❤️ ". Wow! ❤️  Decisions, decisons....do I put this on my calendar to see first thing in the morning? This will definitely be the gift that is going to keep on giving 🎁. I'll put this post it note with your beautiful words under my pillow tonight instead. It will find it's way to my calendar first thing in the morning too. 

The magic ✨happens around here every day. Either we see it or we create it. (maybe sometimes both). ✨ Thank you for being that magic maker for me today! Abracadabra! ✨ You will be counted in my gratitude moments at the end of the day. Thank you for giving me even more to be grateful for. 

*high fives* 😊 and big big *hugs* ❤️

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User Profile: ghettosmurf
ghettosmurf October 10th, 2023

I bought a LifeSize cardboard cutout of my late son so he was able to be apart of family functions rather than just a normal photo.. and I also have a memorial set up next to my bed with photos etc of isiah

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User Profile: HealingTalk
HealingTalk OP October 10th, 2023

@ghettosmurf


Hi again!

You are very much welcome here!

Creating a bedside memorial, and incorporating a life-size photograph of your son into your family activities are beautiful ways to cherish and keep his memory present in your life. 

Grief is a unique and individual experience, and finding ways to remember and honor your son, that are meaningful to you, is the best way to move forward while grieving, I think.

Memorials and tangible reminders can provide comfort and a sense of closeness to the person we've lost. It's about finding what helps you cope, heal, and feel connected to your son in a way that's meaningful for you.

I congratulate you for conceiving significant ways to honor the memory of your beloved son, and actually putting them into practice.

Those are beautiful expressions of an intense love that perdures no matter what.

They show how much you love your son and what a great person you are expressing this intense and perduring love.

Thank you again for coming here to share your experiences and feelings.

Your words are very valuable to us.


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ghettosmurf October 10th, 2023

You’re welcome.. along my healing journey I like to share what I can and hopefully it’ll help others along their journeys..

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User Profile: HealingTalk
HealingTalk OP October 11th, 2023

@ghettosmurf


Your contributions are very valuable.

Many people who are grieving come to this forum but they don't post nor upvote, they just read and get comfort and inspiration from the existing posts.

Your contributions are at the same time inspiring and contain ideas of things that might be very helpful to people who are grieving. 

So, yes, you are helping many people by posting your experiences and feelings here.

All our gratitude to you for that!


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User Profile: greyflowers
greyflowers October 11th, 2023

sorry for this silly question.

but would anyone else say that grief can be someone who is still alive, but no longer in your life? so a friend or relative? i personally see grief as that, and people who have passed away.

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User Profile: HealingTalk
HealingTalk OP October 11th, 2023

@greyflowers


Hi, GreyFlowers!

I totally agree with @smallsy and you.

As I understand it, grief is an emotion, mostly very intense sadness and longing, caused by the loss of someone with central importance in our lives, a loss that leaves a huge void, and that we deem permanent.   

Grieving is going through this intense sadness, slowly coming to terms with the fact that this loss, which left such a huge void, is irreversible, this is the new reality forever.

The way in which we lost this person is not the point, I think, The point is the fact of the irreversible loss and the huge void.

This emotion can arise also from losing other things that are central to our lives. And it can come in various intensities or degrees according to the circumstances.


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User Profile: smallsy
smallsy October 11th, 2023

@greyflowers I don’t think that’s a silly question at all ❤️ I would say that you can and sometimes should grieve people that are still alive but not in your life. Those have been the hardest losses in my life. I hope you’re able to find peace from processing that grief.

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User Profile: greyflowers
greyflowers October 11th, 2023

@smallsy thank you. i agree. and at the moment no, in terms of someone who is no longer in my life.

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User Profile: livedexperiences
livedexperiences October 16th, 2023

@HealingTalk
highly misunderstood humans

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User Profile: HealingTalk
HealingTalk OP October 17th, 2023

@livedexperiences

Many humans are highly misunderstood indeed, unfortunately!

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