Arsenic soup bullying
This may be long please bear with me, this is an ongoing issue. This is about my experience on 7Cups and unfortunately, it's something that is on my mind almost every time I sign in, but now whenever I mention it, I am called paranoid, hated, targetted, etc. There is a group of people that I am not sure where they are from. They have been coming into the group rooms to verbally attack people. At first, it was other people, until I stood up for them and got the bully to target me instead. They are also messaging to attack com mods and other listeners. They come into the rooms and tell me to eat arsenic soup, corona hotdogs, to go die, that I am horrible, they've called me almost every degrading name you can think of. They have also spoken horribly about my Member account to my Listener account not realizing that we were the same person. Telling my Listener that I had finally killed myself. I have gone to admin, I have gone to the founder, these people seem to just want to send me in circles and do not seem to be doing anything about this issue. I sent screenshots of this person attacking me but the response is usually that they have been taken care of. The thing is though, they keep coming back. 70 times in the last three weeks that I have experienced this. The community mods have been amazing at getting them out of the rooms quickly but that is all they can do as well. Two days ago, they began to come into the rooms and saying one thing, and then the rooms burying them before the Mod has a chance to get in and see that they are back, it took three days for them to be caught this time. "Got some cold arsenic soup for affectionatelunch troll" now it's "got cold arsenic soup for that mamabearmedic troll" I have changed my name but that hasn't stopped them as of yet. I want us to all share what this person has put us through, and maybe admin will realize this is a problem that needs to be handled rather than shoved under rugs. I am terrified that this person is going to tell someone to go die, and then someone will. Is that what it is going to take for someone to actually give a crap about this situation? I am not sure what happened to this person, not sure what they've been through, but we are supposed to be safe here. It disgusts me that someone could come into a mental health site to tell people to go kill themselves because someone is going to listen to them. I don't care how many people want to hate me for sharing this, who want to attack me for trying to help make 7cups safe. I will not stop sharing, I will not stop advocating. If this person has come after you, know that you are not alone in this. Take screenshots, spam the hell out of admin. I don't know what else to do. Do not stay quiet Make yourself heard whatever it takes, just find your voice and when you do fill the damn silence. People here don't know me well, but they've learned that I don't give up easily, I am stubborn, headstrong, and have a huge heart. Bullying will never be something that I will turn my back on, so know anyone dealing with this person, I am trying to help as much as I possibly can. <3
-Penelope- Primary Care Paramedic.
@Mamabearmedic These people need to be stopped no matter what the cost. They are endangering the lives of others by doing these things.
@Mamabearmedic
I appreciate you for your concern! Its great that you are coming out in open for advocating safety of other members and safety of 7cups as a whole!
Im sorry that you have to undergo such harrassment for standing up for yourself, and you are not the only one being attacked by this person. They're threatening multiple people, calling them names, bashing them in rooms, claiming theyre friends with admins and Glen, and saying they will block everyone who stands up against her bullying and attacks.
Infact she did manage to get multiple users blocked and banned without any proper reasons. I wonder how she got this power, whether someone helping her in the background!
This bully has making new accounts each day and harassing many many members and listerners in rooms and in their pms. And this has been going on for more than 6 months now!
I wonder whether theyre doing this alone or whether their friends and more people involved in this! I also wonder whether they're using chat bots to signup create multiple emails and accounts each day!
This is huge security risk to cups and i think if this is not dealt with properly, there will be more bullies following the suit, then there is no use in removing the rooms and providing 24/7 modding for safety, when such bullies continue to attack multiple ppl in rooms.
I hope such people get their IP blocked and are permanently gotten rid off from this site!
Hope a solution is found for this issue soon, hate to see more emotionally vulnerable people being attacked and bullied in a support site!
@InfiniteThoughts2k19
From I have learned, they are using a VPN which is incredibly difficult for us to permanently ban them. It is unsafe and horrible the things that I have seen them say to people and myself. They are tarnishing my reputation as a listener, because I have already received three emails about my professionalism. They barked up the wrong tree and this is going to end. I don't stand down. It is a group of friends, they need to bring in legal action, have this person committed. They are not right in the head at all, and in my country telling someone to go kill themselves is an arrestable offence. I will continue to shout from the roof tops about the situation until something is done and it is taken seriously. We are worried. We are scared to come in here. I am scared someone is going to end up dead. It is a horrible situation and it needs to be fixed now. Thank you for support <3
@Mamabearmedic I agree with you.
In fact, even though I never go in the rooms myself I have specific reason to agree with you about your worst fear that I can't say any more about here. I feel that comments in this thread along the lines of "don't worry" are not appropriate to a situation this serious.
Another thing we should fear is that just one lawsuit by a bereaved family, or a criminal investigation that comes to the attention of the media, could bring a sudden end to 7 Cups.
Back in January, in my notebook, I reviewed the changes to chatroom access, concluding:
So we have a system that will strongly discourage troubled people who have other things on their mind, but is relatively easy for trolls. What could possibly go wrong?
And then I proposed what I think might be a slightly better system. Certainly no system is ever going to be perfect. However, it's extremely rare for a forum discussion like this one to have any effect at all.
Thank you for your persistent whistleblowing in the face of this threat.
Charlie
@RarelyCharlie
I agree with just about everything you say, even the part of this forum post maybe not going anywhere. But as a member/listener I am not a mod or admin, so my hands are pretty tied at what I can do about this other then scream it from the rooftops and never stay silent about it. If you have any thing you'd like to share with me feel free to PM me. that goes for anyone here. <3
@Mamabearmedic
Hi initially thank you for replying and opening up about the trouble you are facing. It's very unfortunate about the spams and the hate comment that certain users do to trouble others. But I hope you have self care and do not worry we all are there for you.
There a certain option about that you can report and mute users if they are abusive in the member chat rooms and as well as you can fill the mod call form too, so that the mods get notification about the thing and they can come soon for help in the chat room. We value member's safety and so I hope the admins will help you in the very best way.
Tagging some people as I hope they will be able to help you in the best way 😀, we all as a community are for you always. And no one should face hatred or ill comment.
@ASilentObserver @Heather225 @Power @MidnightRaven999
@Daisy7cups
thanks I have reached out to silent, and to glen. Just trying to make this better.. before someone does end up dead..
@Mamabearmedic
I am sure they will come up with some thoughts that will strengthen the safety and will help you all. We all are in this and everything will be fine 😀.
hello there! I'm Mel, I'm a forum ambassador. Wanted to remind you to please keep in mind that you shouldn't make duplicate threads in different subforums. For reference, this is rule number 8. of forum guidelines: Duplicate posts and threads, including posting the same thread in multiple categories, are not allowed. Please reach out to a forum mentor if you accidentally post multiple times or if you are unsure if your thread already exists somewhere else. You can read the expanded explanation here.
Thank you for your support to the forums, I've deleted all other posts except for this one, please let me know if you would like to have this thread posted in another category instead of here and I can move it for you but only in one subforum.
@Mel as the person below me has stated the reason why I posted it and a few different forums was I was trying to raise awareness and ring bells I'm sorry if I broke any rules
@Mamabearmedic
You need to get yourself noticed and raise awareness, if we do it for gokd we brake rules if the perpetrators do it for bad, who cares right?
@Mamabearmedic hey there, thank you for your post! You're more than welcomed to raise awareness making 1 only thread, it still means a lot. Thank you for you work. Detailed explanation of the rules can be find linked in my original post, for the person that posted as well in a not so nicely way. Please be mindful of treating each other with kindness at all times, we're trying to help. Take care xx
@Mel
Odd that you're more concerned with upholding forum rules than with maintaining someone's safety. Please help @Mamabearmedic, clearly this is urgent enough to make several threads.
@Lexloveslife I understand the rule and why it is put in place. She is just a rule enforcer, do not hate on her because she has a job to do please. One forum is enough, just keep sharing it to people okay. Thanks for your support! :)
@Mamabearmedic
Hey there. I'm not hating on her. She's more than welcome to do her role. I just find the priorities odd, that's all. I believe your safety should be what's important in this thread. Sorry if this came across as hating :)
@Lexloveslife (me too, it is easier to come down on victims then go after the perpetrators...usually it is called double victimising...a victim that is put down trying to defend themselves...but alright, be it as it may...)
@ButerfleeDreamer
I agree with you and Lex! Its rules like this which silence the victims from standing up for themselves and others, encourages such bullies! A silent victim who plays by the rules is an easy for them to abuse over and over again! I wish 7 cups give more importance to the affected victims safety as much as they care about rules and regulations! Atleast glad they didn't take down this post! Whistleblowers are silenced everywhere and face the wrath even in real life!
You can block them, they create more acvounts, your only way to fight them if you can't fight them alone like I did in my days is build your own counter team. Gather as many of your friends as you can and fight back. Just bait them and watch and then overwhelm them with more power than them, power of good and drive them out...
I have documented this since long time ago more than 8000 pics and I got banned for fighting bullying, harassment, shunning and mobbing...
What they can do we can do too and gather together...
If I descend in the chat rooms again it will be chaos and mayhem again and get them all shut down again...
I am deeply sad this is still going on...
@Mamabearmedic
I am with you
Update -19 accounts this morning alone in my Pms on l account.. This problem is getting deep.
@Mamabearmedic That's one person with 19 accounts, do you think? Or maybe a gang with 19 accounts between them, I suppose.
It would be relatively easy to prevent, as far as I can tell, but maybe there are higher priorities than protecting listeners. I imagine giving you a new account is going to be the path of least resistance.
Charlie
@RarelyCharlie
It is the same person and maybe some friends same kinds of messages. I don't want a new listener acc at all. Now i can get screenshots and all i have to do is send the information to the commods and poof. Keeps them out of the rooms and gives me some evidence.
@Mamabearmedic Good! I hope that works.
Charlie
Hello @MamaBearMedic
Thank you so much for sharing your story about the bullying that you have had to face.
It breaks my heart to hear about bullying victims especially when they are completely innocent and just trying to get support. You deserve support, love and respect. If I could give you a hug right now and tell you that we care about you even if some members are really horrible then I would.
You are certainly not alone with having to go through bullying. I have been through severe verbal, physical and online bullying. It is absolutely awful and heartbreaking. 7Cups should be a safe place for support with mental health but it seems to not be that way for you.
Everyone has a voice and they deserve to be heard when they speak up about issues no matter what they are. We are not the same. We are different in a good way. Together is where we belong. Although I am a teen and you are an adult, I still really care about what you have had to go through.
Yes it is hard to report these sorts of things and to cope but you must speak up if you want to have any chance of solving these issues. Just because other members are going through their own struggles, it does not make it acceptable for them to bully other members. It makes me angry to see that they are even bullying listeners and community moderators!
Stay strong. We are here for you. <3
Kayla- Teen Land
@KaylaDances
Ive dealt with almost 100 accounts now pming my listener account.. sigh.. my time here may end soon.. im not sure. The second you get the first batch deactivate more come in.. so frustrating.. thabk you sweetie. Take care.
@Mamabearmedic
It sucks to know that you keep experiencing this. Have you considered getting your username changed? Maybe change your username and bio?
@Mamabearmedic That sounds awful for you to experience. Have you contacted 7Cups by email about it. Perhaps you should ask for permission to make a new account but with a completely different username so you don't get these awful messages. It really does break my heart. 😔💔 I go through bullying off 7Cups and it affects mental health a lot.
@KaylaDances thats the thing though. Why should I have to start over I worked hard to get where I am. Why do they get to win?
@Mamabearmedic When I woke up this morning I realized that I know how to block unsolicited PMs from people you've never chatted with before, if that would help.
This can only be done if you use a conventional web browser (Firefox, Chrome, etc.) on a computer. If you or anyone reading this would be interested, let me know by replying here or by sending me a message, and I'll give it a try at the weekend.
Charlie
@Mamabearmedic It is to keep you safe although I do completely understand and respect what you are saying.
You are an advocate for change and should be proud to be alive. Thank you.