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[What Do I Do?] I feel as though the member is making their issues up...

User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere May 7th, 2022

Sometimes members say seemingly bizzare things in groups or PMs with listeners, and we have trouble believing it is possible. What to do in that situation?? 😮😮
(Everyone please feel free to answer below and tag a listener friend so we all learn together hehe)
(Tags a "few" friends @Izzy274 @AveryLove @sunisshiningandsoareyou @considerateParadise6717 )

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User Profile: AveryLove
AveryLove May 7th, 2022

@LavenderHere

even though confusion can occur, i find it extremely important to not force our beliefs onto the member and in no way show them that we do not think they are telling the truth. I personally do not think thats what we are here for. We're here to listen, to give them a safe space without judgement and I personally find it super important to separate our opinion from how we listen to a member. If however a listener feels very unsure about a chat and how to help the member, it is totally okay to refer the chat ❤️ that is my take on this.

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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP May 7th, 2022

@AveryLove Averyyyyyy you raise valid points...it's very important to show them we believe them and give them a safe space...it's hard but important to seperate our opinion from the chat, and be as non-judgemental as possible. And it's okay to refer a chat if you are unable to handle it.

Thank you so much for replying and for such good points<3
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@LavenderHere

Hey Lav, thankyou for inviting me to share my thoughts hehe, I like these practice situations, discussing such with our peers would really help in knowing diverse perspectives, as well as learning the best practices. 💜

I like and agree with what Avery mentioned about providing a safe and non-judgmental space and not imposing our own opinions or beliefs in whatsoever way in the chat.

As a general guideline too, we've been told and reminded often that we take all chats as genuine and treat them objectively I.e listening to the member like in any other chat ~ practicing our active listening skills and focusing on providing the member a safe and comfortable non judgemental space to talk about whatever they need support with. We ofcourse wouldn't know if they telling truth or making stories, and would have to trust our member on their word ~ handling the chat just like we usually would do.

I feel a good approach here would be to center the chat to a supportive topic, if the chat flows in a direction away from support ~ we can try asking questions that help member to open up about their "why" of needing chat and how's it affecting/ impacting them.

However yes, it's a good thing to be mindful of our own boundaries too, and in case a chat feels too much and it is getting rather difficult to stay objective then perhaps we can take help from a chat supporter or ofcourse can refer the chat to another listener, if it becomes uncomfortable or simply not tolerable (for the lack of a better word) for us, our comfort matters as well.

Tagging some wonderful coaches to share their thoughts/ approach in handling these situations too:

@kindnessmatters2020 @hopieremi @kindheartedlily6247 @Rosshini

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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP May 7th, 2022

@Sunisshiningandsoareyou I love these too...saw your lovely post recently and thought I'd come up with one too hehe. Thank you so much for replying to this one!! (me is honoured hehe)

Yesss we are told to treat the member as genuinely as possible, and try to get them towards seeking support is a good point. Like we can ask them why they are here and how we can support them, and how is the situation affecting them, and yesssss boundaries need to be remembered. And chat supporters are there for you when you feel stuck<3
Thank you for tagging lovely coaches, looking forward to hearing from them too!!
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@LavenderHere

Aw ofcourse, Lav. Happy to offer my insight hehe and gosh you're making me shy now xD I'm honored to be tagged by lovely Lav 😛 no really, thankyou for thinking of me. And I'm glad you feel the same, I look forward to more of these practice situations as well. ❤

*shares cookies*


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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP May 8th, 2022

@Sunisshiningandsoareyou I'll try to think of more situations hehe *shares cookies*

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User Profile: Remina
Remina May 7th, 2022

@LavenderHere If I feel that they are faking parts of what they are talking about, this is where my time boundaries come in handy. I let them know that the chat will be wrapping up in about x minutes. I tend to give a chat 30 minutes before I decide it is time to wrap it up so at most I don't feel like I have wasted time with a user and I also don't invalidate someone who's story sounds so fake but is real.

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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP May 8th, 2022

@HopieRemi That's such a wise idea to give them some time and I hear you on how it'd help balance feelings of wasting time and still not invalidating stories😮 Thank you so much for responding to the thread!

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User Profile: Remina
Remina May 8th, 2022

Thank you and you’re welcome. @lavenderhere

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User Profile: kindheartedLily
kindheartedLily May 7th, 2022

@LavenderHere

@sunisshiningandsoareyou


Thanks for the tag:) Everyone shared some great thoughts!

I believe in remaining objective and nonjudgmental because as listeners we are here to listen and support members, not to question their truth or beliefs. It is possible that the member does not have anyone in their personal life who is willing to listen to them, and we can help the member by remaining objective while using active listening skills. It is not our responsibility to question them about whether they are telling the truth, and I believe it is important to remain open-minded and allow them to speak freely (within the guidelines of 7 Cups). As listeners, we can ask open-ended questions to gather more information, and if we notice any discrepancies, it is not our responsibility to point them out because doing so may turn the member off. It is important to validate the member's experience.
Of course, if it's a topic the listener isn't comfortable with, it is always okay to refer them to another listener:)

Tagging @CheeryMango @Bubblegumwings1234 @FrenchMarbles @theriverissinging

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@kindheartedLily6247

Ofcourse, and those are some wonderful tips. Focus on active listening, not being judgemental, allowing a comfy space to the member and ensuring they feel open to share what they need. Thanks for sharing too, Lily. 😊

User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP May 8th, 2022

@kindheartedLily6247 Thank you so much for responding! You raise good points, and I hear you about our duty as being here and provide an open space for them to talk about stuff<3 And thank you so much for tagging fellow listeners!

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User Profile: theriverissinging
theriverissinging May 8th, 2022

Thank you for the tag, @kindheartedLily6247 and @LavenderHere for the post!

I haven't really bothered about the "genuineness of chats". I believe the members and the situations they are in. Making up issues might mean underlying issues too, which we cannot analyse and in my opinion, is not what we are here for. Sometimes people might skip or alter certain details to fulfill some objective that they might have (consciously or not). While, this might be "manipulating the chat" in a fashion, that does not mean it is not their reality entirely, for I know this is just human nature usually from what I have learnt from experience! Same goes with other such scenarios for me. People are real lol and so are their issues; I don't like to hover over how they are presenting it externally. This is idealistic and of course bias might come into play–it always does–but just how I like to think/go about it.

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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP May 8th, 2022

@theriverissinging I hear you there River. It reminds me a lot of trauma survivors tend to "test the waters", like not go into details or trust people at once because they don't know who to trust, (like we check the temperature of a swimming pool before going in). And it surely doesn't make someone's experiences less real if they are not sharing all the details. Bias sometimes comes in play but that's a lovely way to think about it<3 Thank you so much for sharing River!

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User Profile: theriverissinging
theriverissinging May 8th, 2022

@LavenderHere that's a really good example, yes!

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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP May 8th, 2022

Also tagging a few more friends to invite them to see this and join in hehe
@listeningsarinn @HealingBrokenWIngs @Victor04 @WarmLightXO @SkylarListens

User Profile: WarmLightXO
WarmLightXO May 8th, 2022

@LavenderHere

In this situation, I try to treat it like any other chat. Show empathy, attentiveness, respect, validation- and end the chat if it's crossing my personal boundaries. It's super difficult sometimes to do this, I try and tell myself that it's not my job to believe or disbelieve, it's my job to listen 💚

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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP May 9th, 2022

@WarmLightXO Lighttt that's an awesome thing to say, I agree it's difficult but keeping these pointers in mind can really help address that scenario effectively hehe. Thank you so much for responding!


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User Profile: AffyAvo
AffyAvo May 9th, 2022

@LavenderHere Oooh I saw this title and was like oh no, but this is actually a great thread!

I think something that may help listeners to keep a bit of perspective with this is too keep in mind that many things do tend to cluster. So if someone seems to be having a ton of bad luck all at once and it seems like gee probability wise it seems unlikely for those things all to happen to 1 person, as one occurs it's actually more likely for others to occur.

For me, this is illnesses, I have been told by doctors it's not unusual for rare diseases to cluster, even if completely unrelated.

For someone else it might be intergenerational trauma, where many people around them end up dealing with various crises.

Or it could be a geopolitical issue that differs greatly for a listener.


Some things it's also easy to learn about. I have encountered some difficulties when it comes to medical tests/treatments which are really easy to determine that yes, that is what happens simply with a quick Google search.

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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP May 9th, 2022

@AffyAvo finally we meet, so nice to meet you! (I have seen lots of your awesome posts)<3 Glad to hear you like this thread!


Aaah yes bad luck, probabilities can come together to cause some really tough circumstances, and that can lead to seemingly unbelieveable symptoms to come together.
I understand about your illnesses, and how it may come together and make it hard, especially since handling one is difficult and them all added up is tremendous, plus it'd be hard for others to believe too I guess. And that same thing applies in other circumstances, thank you for that apt example. And *nods nods* researching can help determine and understand a lot, thank you for raising that point!
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User Profile: HealingBrokenWIngs
HealingBrokenWIngs May 9th, 2022

@LavenderHere

Just like with any other chat, I will listen, validate, and try to understand. Even if they are faking, they usually fake something in an effort to cover up something else. If they trust you enough by your kindness and empathy, sometimes they'll reveal they were faking or tell you the root issue. It's best not to accuse of faking in general, because you don't actually know the truth <3

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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP March 30th, 2023

@HealingBrokenWIngs nod nod!! very well said

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User Profile: AmberlyZ
AmberlyZ November 18th, 2022

I am not sure if it is my place to judge the members issues as unbelievable. However, sometimes trolling is apparent. Just support the person. Ask open ended questions. Restate their responses accordingly. It is all good.

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User Profile: LavenderHere
LavenderHere OP March 30th, 2023

@AmberlyZ that's true, it's not our place to judge them but often we can't help it when situations seem really bizzare but we need to remind ourselves to be neutral and ask questions and listen to them<3

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