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Consider this my Resignation if this does not stop!

User Profile: Jem7Cups
Jem7Cups April 12th, 2020

Hi there,

Many of you know me as Jem.

I put a lot of effort in ensuring that this site remains a safe space for those who are struggling and need support. But there's only so much I can take. As someone who wants to help as many people as possible, I try to take about 6 chats a day. At least 1/2 of these are sexual (and often the same person!), being threatening, violent, and generally triggering. Here is a a message I received from them just 10 minutes:

[edited by Anomalia to remove message]

For those of you who tell me to screenshot conversations and send to community@7cups.com, the sheer amount of times i have this person(s) sexually stalking/harassing me, it's impossible to keep up with this demand.

I sit here crying, wondering WHY and HOW these accounts are not having their IPs banned. I'm shaking, I'm triggered, and I'm hurt. You know how much I love and care for this community. I dedicate 10 hours of my time daily to make 7 Cups a safer place, but I cannot do it alone. I'm seriously considering whether or not my efforts are enough, and whether I should continue with my roles on the site.

This isn't a post for sympathy, but merely a warning. Please take each chat with caution, follow your training, and remember that if you're uncomfortable in a chat, never go forward with it! Refer them to 7cups.com/BrowseListeners/ and politely end the chat. Don't be a martyr. Think about your safety above anything else!

Jem 💜(forum supporter)

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User Profile: Tyedyedbutterfly65
Tyedyedbutterfly65 April 12th, 2020

Jem I am so sorry and I so wish that the Ip addresses would stay banned but due to them having Vpn's they bypass the Ip Bans ... there needs to be a way to Block the Vpn's !!

No one should have to tolerate what you have been !! I am so sorry and I hope that this is resolved ASAP

You are so loved here and appreciated and so awesome we do not wanna lose you ! heart

Tye

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User Profile: VerdantMeadows
VerdantMeadows April 12th, 2020

@Tyedyedbutterfly65

I'm reasonably sure the ugly message is actually breaking the law by threatening someone. However, with the VPN anonymizing the IP address, how can you tell who it is? My recommendation would be for 7cups to create a 'panic button' on all forms of communicate, and immediately freeze the other person from communicating, send the communication logs to the 7cups securityteam and ask them to mediate. If the 'panic button' worked properly, it would stop people from continuing to be abusive (and frankly criminal) and ideally frustrate them to stop because it's tedious to change IP by VPN, change email, change name only to get one phrase out. If people abused the panic button, then the it would be someone at 7cups that could mediate based on the conversation.

I makes me sick to my stomach to see the ugliness of humanity, which I fight not to see, spoken to someone who dedicates time and energy to help people and improve the world.

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User Profile: Tyedyedbutterfly65
Tyedyedbutterfly65 April 12th, 2020

@VerdantMeadows I agree !! I am not over anything but the site does need to really find a way to ban them for good!!! This does need to stop .

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User Profile: adventurousBranch3786
adventurousBranch3786 April 12th, 2020

@Jem7Cups Hi Jem, I am so sorry to hear what you have experianced here. I have enjoyed your helpful forum posts and have attended discussions with you in anxiety which were very helpful also. Thank you for all that you do, it means a lot! You would be missed, but I understand that you have to take care of yourself.

User Profile: GreyMirror
GreyMirror April 12th, 2020

@Jem7Cups (this raised my wolf hairs on my back...you have my sympathy...please do not leave, we need you...)

User Profile: RarelyCharlie
RarelyCharlie April 12th, 2020

@Jem7Cups I agree. We should all heed your warning and think about our own safety above everything else.

It's depressing that the Listener Oath contradicts this.

Unfortunately IP bans don't work because for many people it's really simple to change their IP, and besides that, IPs are shared by the innocent.

Potential solutions to the problem of abusive members do exist, but 7 Cups has never shown any interest in implementing them. And discussing issues in the forum like this almost never has any effect at all on 7 Cups itself, which seems resistant to serious problem solving.

Considering yesterday's related post by @Mamabearmedic about Arsenic soup bullying, I wonder if we are now heading for yet another crisis within 7 Cups.

Charlie

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User Profile: GreyMirror
GreyMirror April 12th, 2020

@RarelyCharlie

(I so much agree...)

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User Profile: lavenderpeach1107
lavenderpeach1107 April 12th, 2020

@Jem7Cups Hi my friend. I'm so sorry this is happening you. This is unacceptable in my opinion and this is exactly the reason why I stopped taking general requests. This has happened to me too before and I wish it didn't. I'm going to ask around and see if there is anything further we can do about this because I don't want to lose you. You are a very valuable assest to our depression community. PM me anytime if you need to.

April 12th, 2020

@Jem7Cups

Hello!

I'm sorry you went through this. I completely agree with what you're saying. I as a member or a listener (for which I signed up quite recently) have faced similar situations where I find people using this as a cheap substitute to find a date! And it hurts me so much to know that they are taking up time and space from those members who would actually be suffering and would need a listener. And it's not just the members being like this, but also a listener that I came across in my initial few weeks. That guy went on to discuss my mom's "loneliness" in his opinion, when I told him that I had lost my dad. It shook me up so bad that I couldn't even say anything. That too when I was going through a tough time! It's horrible what some people are like, member or Listener. I request all of you to block such people, and continue to block them. This is not a place to get yourself laid. We are trying to support each other, perhaps even save lives. Please understand.

User Profile: Jenna
Jenna April 12th, 2020

Safety on this website has always been a major issue. Everything has a pro and con to it. Anonymity has the pro of being able to share your feelings and situations without someone knowing who you are, but then you have people who abuse the anonymity available on this site. Everywhere you go there are people who are out to hurt someone else. Some say it's because they go through something awful and the only way they know how to project is by expressing it negatively. Some say there are people who are mean spirited either way. However, everyone is responsible for how they treat others and how they deal with their struggles. I really hate that someone is contacting you and saying such vulgar things like this to you. We have the steps like you mentioned which aren't enough. I really would be sad if things don't change and cause you to leave the community. You are an ASSET here. You can only do so many reports which aren't handled fast enough. You can only change your name, photo, and bio so many times. We shouldn't be the ones who have to keep changing when we're not the problem. Plain and simple. They keep coming back on new accounts and continue to berate and harass. It isn't fair that those working so hard to be a listening ear for others have to put up with people like this. There has to be something done more to implement safety on this site. Other support sites have ways to keep safe and they thrive in it. So what is so different about this place? I wish I had the answers to the questions. WE NEED BETTER SAFETY MEASURES AND WE NEED TO BE BETTER AT HANDLING PEOPLE WHO ARE THREATENING.

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User Profile: GreyMirror
GreyMirror April 12th, 2020

@Jenna

(Very wisely written...)

User Profile: shaquilleoatmeal
shaquilleoatmeal June 13th, 2020

@Jenna

Couldn't agree more

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User Profile: zaatarHoney
zaatarHoney April 13th, 2020

My heart goes out to you, @Jem7Cups !! As a Listener who has received toxic messages from members like this— Ive often wondered the same thing. The way you feel as a result is only natural and unfortunately, Im sure we may have lost many astounding listeners, like yourself, due to situations like this. So, thank you for being vulnerable in this space to admit theres an issue that needs to be better addressed.

Its devastating that I can hear the voice of many listeners through yours— including my own— we definitely need to do better. 7Cups is greater because youre here just as there are many powerful and captivating minds that gather here to serve those in our online mental health community who request emotional support during their most trying times— we all deserve to feel protected.

Giving our listeners a space to be safe in is just as crucial as keeping our members safe. I know our admins are doing the best they can to stay on top of issues like this, like they have been in the past— but its clear theres still grounds to improve upon and I hope this brave testimony sparks conversations that lead to more effective resolutions. ♡

Much luv, Jem. ♡ Thank you.

User Profile: AddictedTealover98
AddictedTealover98 April 13th, 2020

I'm sorry to hear this @Jem7Cups 😟 You have been very valuable and i love your posts. This is actually the reason why i rarely take general request now, and even some of my personal request are still filled with people asking for sx chats or harrassing and i had to block them since they keep messaging back at me (some were even new listeners which is scary in its own way), I have known a few listeners as well who ended up leaving this site for those reasons, especially the sudden increase of them since the epidemic lockdown. It is actually a long known issue when i ask but it seems no one will start taking countermeasures, which is sad since listeners who dedicate their time like you get abused and triggered and scared. Listener still new their space as well as members cause we're all human! Not some unfeeling bot.

We cant do much with IPs and VPNs since its actually a quite open place and how do you actually blocked them?? A suggestion (this is another listener who suggested to me and i think its great) like making a tie in code when creating an account (like contact numbers) to restrict it, since personal info is confidential anyway. 7Cups is a great place to find emotional support with like-minded people but also a gathering place for people to be abused by this if not careful by toxic people, thank you Jem for bringing this up.

I know the admins have been trying to solve this long time issue, and trying their best and im glad for it, but i really hope they really start to take action before all the valuable listeners we have leaves.

- Tea ☕ || Life is not a game of luck. If you wanna win, work hard. – Sora, NGNL

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User Profile: AbbyHarris1976
AbbyHarris1976 April 13th, 2020

I think what you wrote about new listeners actually partaking in sending sx chats says a lot 👍 and also shows (1) that 7 Cups has gone downhill over the last year and (2) the process for selecting and accepting new listeners is flawed. 👎

Lets start with the profiles ... I think all member and listener profiles should have a paragraph minimum for a description because, especially when browsing listeners, many of their profiles dont give enough information about what they specialize in listening to.

Everyone needs to understand here on 7 Cups that this is a support site ... this is NOT a 1-900 service or a XXX getup 👎🙄

@AddictedTealover98

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User Profile: AddictedTealover98
AddictedTealover98 April 14th, 2020

@AbbyHarris1976 Agreed. I love you bio btw, it says a lot direct facts and very true 👏 I just hope this issue will at least be taken action on.

- Tea ☕ || Life is not a game of luck. If you wanna win, work hard. – Sora, NGNL

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User Profile: Hope
Hope April 14th, 2020

Hi @Jem7Cups, I am really sorry that you have been experiencing this and I hear you, it is frustrating to have to put up with such advances when you are volunteering your time to genuinely support members. Please know that your time and efforts are very much appreciated and we see the work you put in. Thank you for consistently reporting that helps us remove unsupportive people from the platform. I assure you the community team has been more focused than ever on the safety of our users and we are consistently working on removing such people. I have pmd you to get some more information on the matter. Thank you for voicing your concerns.