Part V: Sustainability Update
Dear Community,
I’ve got 4 kids. Part of my job as a father is to help raise my kids so that they can function autonomously in the real world. How do I do that? I care for them and let them “bake” until they are young adults. By bake I mean I want to create an environment where they can mature and develop their strengths as much as possible before launching in the real world.
What does this look like? I cover all costs and provide a rich and nourishing environment to prepare them for college. Then they go to college. I cover tuition for the first 3 years. They cover their last year. For room and board, I cover the first year, but starting sophomore year I cover about 70% of their costs; they have to cover 30% of their rent and food costs by working in the summer and part-time throughout the year.
I do this in a staged manner so that by the time they are in grad school or have graduated they are more or less living on their own and able to cover all of their living costs. I’m of course here to help and have signed on to pay for weddings for my 3 girls and do my best to pitch in during hard times.
In this context, I see 7 Cups as my 5th child. By far, my most expensive child! I have worked hard with the team and community leaders to create a high warmth and high expectations community for the child we are all raising.
And, man, has that kid matured and become smart and strong! When we first started, there were near constant fires. I was running all over the place. It was like having a very big and unwieldy newborn! Over time, 7 Cups went through early childhood, adolescence, and now, finally, it is in early adulthood and getting ready to launch (just like my twins).
We don’t talk about this much, but 7 Cups is big. It is a 99.99% site. That means it is larger than 99.99% of other sites on the Internet. If you lined up people from shortest to tallest. 7 Cups would be at the very tall end of the line and would be 6 feet 7 inches tall. Taller than Michael Jordan, but not quite as tall as Lebron James.
As you might imagine, it is very expensive to run 7 Cups. I won’t get into details, but I can share that it is far more expensive than anything else I have ever done in my life. You might be wondering - yes, that seems obvious - how does 7 Cups make money? At present, we make money in 3 main ways: we sell online therapy, premium accounts and branded versions of the platform to organizations.
Part of my job as the CEO is to make sure we have enough money. Just like I have to make sure my family has enough money. It wouldn’t be great if I said sorry kids we can’t go to the grocery store this week. Over the last 12 years, financing 7 Cups has been the thing that I have worked the hardest at doing. It is also the most challenging thing I’ve done in my life.
It is very difficult for a number of reasons. One, it is just very expensive. Two, we help a lot of people with less financial resources, so not a lot of people can afford therapy or premium accounts. Three, when you sell to an organization it is not uncommon for funding to stop or for other unforeseen challenges to arise. You can see it is like spinning 5 plates at once. I’ve been keeping all of those plates spinning for 12 years.
Like with my twins, it is now time for 7 Cups to start covering more of its own room and board costs. I need 7 Cups to start to generate more of its own revenue. In part, this is because I’m trying to be a good Dad. You don’t want your kids dependent on you forever. There might come a time when I’m not able to provide as much as I want, so it is good for all my kids - including 7 Cups - to be able to function on their own.
This leads me to advertising. I never did advertising on 7 Cups because I was afraid it would negatively impact its cognitive and emotional development. If we started advertising earlier, we would have become dependent on it for revenue. We would have been tempted to grow the population (even if that included folks that were harmful) because we would have wanted more page views to drive more revenue. I didn’t want us to be in that compromised position, especially when 7 Cups was still growing up.
Now, like with my twins, 7 Cups is growing up and becoming stronger and smarter. We are past the place of it being vulnerable. Adding advertising now will not hurt 7 Cups as a developing organism. It will, instead, strengthen 7 Cups because it will begin to function in a more autonomous and independent manner. This will allow for more dedicated progress.
How it has been with us historically is that I go and close a big account. This is great because it provides us with money to help cover costs. We work hard to align big client needs with the needs of the community so that whatever we build is a two for one deal. It helps the client that is paying us AND it helps the community. Sometimes, however, clients want things that don’t have any impact on the community. We have to build these things because they bring in much needed revenue, but they are also a distraction from our core mission of building a free, global, mental health system.
Continuous revenue from advertising will enable us the freedom to focus more on our mission and expand outreach so much farther than we could. The economy, funding challenges, etc. are extremely difficult to navigate. There is a lot of uncertainty and when you think you can count on something, well, sometimes you cannot and then it is very stressful to find new ways of covering our costs.
We are going to be thoughtful, careful, and smart about how we do this. Most of the advertising will be for guests (people with no account that are just visiting our expert articles or Q and A), but there will also be advertising for members and listeners too. We are going to be very mindful of ethics, privacy, and consent. Ads will be both programmatic and contextual. Programmatic works like most of the advertising on the Internet. You look for shoes and then shoe ads follow you around the Web. Contextual advertising isn't tied to you or your behavior. It instead looks at content on the screen to display ads. If you opt in, then you'll get programmatic ads. If you opt out, then you'll get contextual ads. We will be working on an extra build so that older users can write-in to support (help.7cups.com) to request ads being turned off. This has taken us quite a while to build. It was more complicated than we expected, so we are mostly focused now on getting these ads live. Please share any feedback below.
This is something that we are researching now and consulting with experts on. It will be a bit of a phased rollout. We’ll ask for feedback along the way.
In some ways, this is a big milestone for all of us. The child we’ve been collectively raising - 7 Cups - will start to function in a more independent manner. We’ll have more reliable finances and will be able to make more progress. It’ll be a huge relief for me too. I love 7 Cups, but being primarily responsible for funding it has been a very heavy burden for me to carry. I had more energy and broader shoulders when I was 36. I’ve been through the fire many times now parenting 7 Cups. I’m happy that it will soon not be resting on my own strength and, thankfully, good fortune.
Please let me know if you have any thoughts or questions and I’ll do my best to answer them below.
Best,
GlenM
PS - funding 7 Cups has been something we’ve been working on from the start. If you are interested in the history of 7 Cups and sustainability, then you can read check out the earlier posts linked below:
Part I: Sustainability Update
Part II: Sustainability Update Summer 2016
Part III: Transparency
Part IV: 7 Cups is Here to Stay! We are Now Sustainable!
@GlenM Thank you for sharing this update. You’ve worked very hard to sustain 7 Cups, and this seems like a thoughtful solution. I understand that ads will feel new here, but keeping them focused on quality feels like the right approach.
@GlenM
Thanks for letting us know 🥰 (offer hugs if its ok)
@SingingOcean4 thanks for the hugs!
@GlenM
No, thank you for funding 7cups of tea and providing tgis place for so many people around the world🥹 i hope the ads can lessen the financial stress on you all and please remember you are deeply appreciated💕
I hope life treats you gentle and please remember to take care yourself 🥺
@GlenM
Thank you for giving so much to your baby and aGoodluck!
I've only been here a week and it has already changed me. I read your book. Inspiring. This is a revolutionary site!
Whatever you got to do I say! You've given so much.🫠 wishing you the best
@GlenM
I would hope the advertising would be geared towards items we might recommend as coping tools, or basically, items that flow with the spirit of 7Cups. That's something I wouldn't mind.
@SelfCareMatters that will definitely be the case for a large percent of the ads. there will likely also be ads for all sorts of things, but all appropriate.
@SelfCareMatters I agree! Although I'm concerned in general because advertisements can be predatory and incentivize more consumerism than people on here can afford to be introduced to. The last thing people struggling with mental health need is another stressor, addiction, potentially unnecessary purchases, etc.
@GlenM What types of ads would the community be exposed to? I fear that ads may cause adverse effects for a community like this that has always seemed so protected.
@Mallie217 very well said - and I share your same concerns. that is why we raised 7 Cups to young adulthood - with all of its strength and smarts - so that it would not be negatively impacted. it is our responsibility to make sure that the pros outweigh the cons. we will keep a close eye on things.
@GlenM
I can understand this completely. There's doubts regarding the possible outscore of this but it is something required to keep the community going.
Now when we are going to open the door I believe our leaders, listeners and community safe keepers will act as a gatekeeper of this compassionate safe house. If we who are already here can be more compassionate, protective and vigilant towards each other and the people who'll be part of our community, then I think we can keep the community thriving as usual.
I don't know about running a community as big as this or any other business or organization but I think one thing can be done to make our long term safe keepers motivated to be more vigilant. And that is by giving them a part of a small portion of money that will come through the deals. I think they deserve it for their persistent endeavor in making this grown up community as strong as it is currently.
Lastly, whatever happens I know we'll stick Together 😊
@TowardsTheR8Intent yes, we have a great community of smart, strong, and empathic folks - the best on the Internet! I am biased, but I think if there were external metrics we'd rate very high on all of them. And that is a real testament to all the hard work that we've collectively done. I have no doubt that we'll stay strong and smart through this as well. The best predictor of past behavior is future behavior!
I just want to say first Im so honored to know you. You don't know how many lives you've changed with your efforts. You are an inspiration. Thanks for being honest about where 7cups stands now - in terms of its progress and its needs both. I think advertisements are okay especially if you're giving people the option to deselect it if they wish to.
@GlenM
@Creamyyy thank you for that encouragement! honored to know you as well! we have such a great group of people here. our collective efforts are remarkable and we are just getting started!
@Creamyyy
What a heartfelt message. Glen certainly has changed many lives for the better and it's lovely to read the gratitude in your message for a very special man! I'm glad to hear how supportive you are of 7 Cups, it's such an amazing place to be.
@tinywhisper11 I think this may be relevant for you, make sure to check this properly
@sadcat13 thanks cat💖 I'm so confused right now😕
@Tinywhisper11 feel welcome to share any questions on this thread, or you can PM any one of us
@SoulfullyAButterfly thankyou💖
@Tinywhisper11 I think it's still safe for you here. The ads shouldn't compromise your safety in any way ❤️
@Tinywhisper11 it's okay. I don't have all the answers either. It's just an important update that I felt can be important for you and may need a bit of safety evaluation from your team. Just wanted to make sure you get the info ☺️
@sadcat13 @mytwistedsoul I've talked to a member of the team here and my carers and I think everything is ok 💖😁💖 thanks for thinking about me cat 💖
@Tinywhisper11 awesome 😊You are a treasure to be protected and need to be okay 😊
@sadcat13 your so sweet 💖 I love you 💗
@Tinywhisper11

@GlenM With these ads, they don't need to be clicked on do they? Will they just be banner type ads? And the option to not receive them, will people have to pay for that option?
@mytwistedsoul nope the ads will not need to be clicked on and you won't have to pay to turn them off. We will likely make that another part of premium though.
@GlenM Hey that's great! I don't normally mind ads tbh. I understand that it's a way to help fund Cups and I think that's awesome. I just wondered if having to click on an ad to close it, if it set tracking cookies. (It's usually not valid consent but it does happen)