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Part V: Sustainability Update

User Profile: GlenM
GlenM October 6th, 2025

Dear Community,

I’ve got 4 kids. Part of my job as a father is to help raise my kids so that they can function autonomously in the real world. How do I do that? I care for them and let them “bake” until they are young adults. By bake I mean I want to create an environment where they can mature and develop their strengths as much as possible before launching in the real world.

What does this look like? I cover all costs and provide a rich and nourishing environment to prepare them for college. Then they go to college. I cover tuition for the first 3 years. They cover their last year. For room and board, I cover the first year, but starting sophomore year I cover about 70% of their costs; they have to cover 30% of their rent and food costs by working in the summer and part-time throughout the year.

I do this in a staged manner so that by the time they are in grad school or have graduated they are more or less living on their own and able to cover all of their living costs. I’m of course here to help and have signed on to pay for weddings for my 3 girls and do my best to pitch in during hard times.

In this context, I see 7 Cups as my 5th child. By far, my most expensive child! I have worked hard with the team and community leaders to create a high warmth and high expectations community for the child we are all raising. 

And, man, has that kid matured and become smart and strong! When we first started, there were near constant fires. I was running all over the place. It was like having a very big and unwieldy newborn! Over time, 7 Cups went through early childhood, adolescence, and now, finally, it is in early adulthood and getting ready to launch (just like my twins).

We don’t talk about this much, but 7 Cups is big. It is a 99.99% site. That means it is larger than 99.99% of other sites on the Internet. If you lined up people from shortest to tallest. 7 Cups would be at the very tall end of the line and would be 6 feet 7 inches tall. Taller than Michael Jordan, but not quite as tall as Lebron James.

As you might imagine, it is very expensive to run 7 Cups. I won’t get into details, but I can share that it is far more expensive than anything else I have ever done in my life. You might be wondering - yes, that seems obvious - how does 7 Cups make money? At present, we make money in 3 main ways: we sell online therapy, premium accounts and branded versions of the platform to organizations.

Part of my job as the CEO is to make sure we have enough money. Just like I have to make sure my family has enough money. It wouldn’t be great if I said sorry kids we can’t go to the grocery store this week. Over the last 12 years, financing 7 Cups has been the thing that I have worked the hardest at doing. It is also the most challenging thing I’ve done in my life.

It is very difficult for a number of reasons. One, it is just very expensive. Two, we help a lot of people with less financial resources, so not a lot of people can afford therapy or premium accounts. Three, when you sell to an organization it is not uncommon for funding to stop or for other unforeseen challenges to arise. You can see it is like spinning 5 plates at once. I’ve been keeping all of those plates spinning for 12 years.


Like with my twins, it is now time for 7 Cups to start covering more of its own room and board costs. I need 7 Cups to start to generate more of its own revenue. In part, this is because I’m trying to be a good Dad. You don’t want your kids dependent on you forever. There might come a time when I’m not able to provide as much as I want, so it is good for all my kids - including 7 Cups - to be able to function on their own.

This leads me to advertising. I never did advertising on 7 Cups because I was afraid it would negatively impact its cognitive and emotional development. If we started advertising earlier, we would have become dependent on it for revenue. We would have been tempted to grow the population (even if that included folks that were harmful) because we would have wanted more page views to drive more revenue. I didn’t want us to be in that compromised position, especially when 7 Cups was still growing up.

Now, like with my twins, 7 Cups is growing up and becoming stronger and smarter. We are past the place of it being vulnerable. Adding advertising now will not hurt 7 Cups as a developing organism. It will, instead, strengthen 7 Cups because it will begin to function in a more autonomous and independent manner. This will allow for more dedicated progress.

How it has been with us historically is that I go and close a big account. This is great because it provides us with money to help cover costs. We work hard to align big client needs with the needs of the community so that whatever we build is a two for one deal. It helps the client that is paying us AND it helps the community. Sometimes, however, clients want things that don’t have any impact on the community. We have to build these things because they bring in much needed revenue, but they are also a distraction from our core mission of building a free, global, mental health system.

Continuous revenue from advertising will enable us the freedom to focus more on our mission and expand outreach so much farther than we could. The economy, funding challenges, etc. are extremely difficult to navigate. There is a lot of uncertainty and when you think you can count on something, well, sometimes you cannot and then it is very stressful to find new ways of covering our costs.

We are going to be thoughtful, careful, and smart about how we do this. Most of the advertising will be for guests (people with no account that are just visiting our expert articles or Q and A), but there will also be advertising for members and listeners too. We are going to be very mindful of ethics, privacy, and consent. Ads will be both programmatic and contextual. Programmatic works like most of the advertising on the Internet. You look for shoes and then shoe ads follow you around the Web. Contextual advertising isn't tied to you or your behavior. It instead looks at content on the screen to display ads. If you opt in, then you'll get programmatic ads. If you opt out, then you'll get contextual ads. We will be working on an extra build so that older users can write-in to support (help.7cups.com) to request ads being turned off. This has taken us quite a while to build. It was more complicated than we expected, so we are mostly focused now on getting these ads live. Please share any feedback below.

This is something that we are researching now and consulting with experts on. It will be a bit of a phased rollout. We’ll ask for feedback along the way.

In some ways, this is a big milestone for all of us. The child we’ve been collectively raising - 7 Cups - will start to function in a more independent manner. We’ll have more reliable finances and will be able to make more progress. It’ll be a huge relief for me too. I love 7 Cups, but being primarily responsible for funding it has been a very heavy burden for me to carry. I had more energy and broader shoulders when I was 36. I’ve been through the fire many times now parenting 7 Cups. I’m happy that it will soon not be resting on my own strength and, thankfully, good fortune.

Please let me know if you have any thoughts or questions and I’ll do my best to answer them below.

Best,

GlenM


PS - funding 7 Cups has been something we’ve been working on from the start. If you are interested in the history of 7 Cups and sustainability, then you can read check out the earlier posts linked below:

Part I: Sustainability Update

Part II: Sustainability Update Summer 2016


Part III: Transparency

Part IV: 7 Cups is Here to Stay! We are Now Sustainable! 

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User Profile: amiablePeace77
amiablePeace77 October 6th, 2025

@GlenM

You and the team have done an excellent job so far and I am thankful for having the opportunity to be part of 7cups. I believe everybody knows that having a platform on the internet creates costs that need to be covered, and I am sure it will be done in a mindful way. 

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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 6th, 2025

@amiablePeace77 thank you for the encouragement and the vote of confidence! it means a lot to me :)

User Profile: SparkyGizmo
SparkyGizmo October 7th, 2025

@amiablePeace77

Thank you for saying that and saying it best! 😊 ❤️ For me, I'm going with......What Ami said! 😊

*high fives* 😊 and *hugs* ❤️

Gizzie now goes back to doing Gizzie stuff 😁

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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 7th, 2025

@SparkyGizmo thank you Sparky!

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User Profile: SparkyGizmo
SparkyGizmo October 7th, 2025

@GlenM

You are most welcome my friend! 😊 ❤️


I have no intentions of turning the ads off, but instead welcome them as a revenue stream for us to help "keep the lights on". You have your finger on the pulse around here as do your spheres of influence. If something ever gets out of range, you'll know and quickly and your reaction time is stellar! 💫


You got this! Keep rockin' the house Glen! ✨


*high fives* 😊 and *hugs* ❤️ Weeeeeeeeeee-weeeeeeeeeeee! 😊

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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 7th, 2025

@SparkyGizmo 💗

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User Profile: SparkyGizmo
SparkyGizmo October 7th, 2025

@GlenM

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User Profile: Amanda84
Amanda84 October 6th, 2025

@GlenM

Thank you for the updates 💜💕

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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 6th, 2025

You are very welcome @Amanda84!

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User Profile: Remina
Remina October 7th, 2025

@GlenM

Thank you for the update. I think this step makes sense. As long as the advertisement is not flashy and inside the chat, it will be okay. Maybe the advertisement can be on the forums in between posts?

User Profile: theboymoana
theboymoana October 7th, 2025

@GlenM

glen not have ads flashing light ok ! That trigger my seizures and not know ad be flashing until to late is worse kind ads flashing ones 

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User Profile: MistyMagic
MistyMagic October 7th, 2025

@theboymoana You bring up a very good point! 

Also @GlenM how will teens as young as 13, that are members here, be protected from unsuitable ads, or in fact any ads?

Will there be no ads for teens (under 18's) ?

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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 7th, 2025

@MistyMagic there will be ads for everyone. teens encounter ads all the time. i think they are much better at navigating the Internet than us older folks!

User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP April 15th

One more clarification! Ads are on for 16+

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User Profile: Remina
Remina April 15th

@GlenM

Hopefully not the inappropriate ads that I saw last night? When I was 16/17, if my mom had seen the ads that I saw last night, she would have taken away my computer access. 16/17 is still a child.

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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 7th, 2025

@theboymoana we will work to not have flashing ads!

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User Profile: violetpink66
violetpink66 October 7th, 2025

@GlenM Thank you very much for sharing and informing that much heartwarming story , We will hold on to 7 cups to grow more for working to make the world the best.

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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 7th, 2025

@violetpink66 thank you very much 🙏

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User Profile: MistyMagic
MistyMagic October 7th, 2025
@GlenM Whilst I understand your point, and I understand funding , but, I would like to emphasise my point a little more please.

7 Cups is a site aimed at giving free emotional support to vulnerable people including teens as young as 13, most of whom are here without parental knowledge. Isn't there a way to go that extra mile and protect them from being used to drive advertising profit? Adverts shown in a perceived 'safe setting' do more harm  and enter deep into the sub-conscious much more than those everyday adverts that can be left as outside 'noise'.

So, will every ad be tapered and aimed at the teenage market?
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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP April 15th

@MistyMagic I'm just updating my post to you here. I think I shared somewhere else in this thread, but can now not find the comment so wanted to take a moment to let you know that we are not advertising to teens. 

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User Profile: violetpink66
violetpink66 October 8th, 2025

@GlenM Most honorable welcome !

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User Profile: chillmoon
chillmoon October 7th, 2025

@GlenM I really appreciate that you updated the community of the present state of 7 cups and how it will go in the future.

as I know ads and selling data to 3rd parties are the main sources of income in platforms with free service. and I was wondering how 7 cups was doing without ads but was glad about it anyway. 

I can understand the need of ads and I am very glad to hear that there will be an option to turn off ads as they can be triggering/affect negatively for some , which then would make 7 cups drift away from it's main purpose. 

Maybe forum posts could be shared form time to time so people know why ads are needed and will keep them turned on if ads doesn't affect them negatively 

Personally I find some advertisement videos, banners seen in social media rather triggering (eg:- video game ads, ads with vibrant colors). I hope the advertisements will be selected and will not be contrasting with 7 cups values (also the color pallet if possible.)

Finally I have to say that this is the best platform that I use in the internet. A community like this is very hard to create, protect  and it is very inspiring to see many great souls in the modern world. I am thankful from the bottom of my heart to you for creating this and bringing it into this level, which was (is) very hard. 

I hope 7 cups will be able to protect its value, its main mission and grow like you said, make more than to cover the costs. I will definitely give back to 7 cups one day(hopefully soon) for everything it has done to help me.


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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 7th, 2025

@chillmoon thank you for this comprehensive response and comment. and thank you for seeing the special place that we have all built. it is always so encouraging when people *see* it 🙏. we want to do our best on having ads that are not obnoxious. it would be great if we could tune them so that they are blended in. like with all the things we do here, it'll take a while for us to iterate and figure it all out, but we'll get there a step at a time. i'm sure we'll make mistakes along the way, so extra grace is very welcome!

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User Profile: onwardforevenmore
onwardforevenmore October 7th, 2025

Ads distract and destroy any focus/concentration on "Me" and "getting healthy". Poor idea.

User Profile: Amanda84
Amanda84 October 7th, 2025

@GlenM

The reality of the situation is, if people want this wonderful site to continue to be available to others, money is inevitable as is funding.

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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 7th, 2025

@Amanda84 well said! yes, we largely run on a gift economy model (scroll to bottom here), but we still have significant expenses to fund the platform that enables the gift economy to work. I think we are doing maximal good for dollars spent - like way, WAY, way outperforming - but $ is still a requirement to keep the the platform running.

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User Profile: Mallie217
Mallie217 October 11th, 2025

@GlenM What do these expenses look like?

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User Profile: Spiritriver
Spiritriver October 8th, 2025

@GlenM

Do you think it might be worth a small bump in price in order for members to have an option to remain ad free?  Or, will premium accounts remain ad free?  

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User Profile: GlenM
GlenM OP October 8th, 2025

I think we’ll want premium accounts to be ad free at the same current cost.

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User Profile: SelfConsciousAboutLooks
SelfConsciousAboutLooks October 8th, 2025

Nice