Why keep living, what's the use?

Cupcakes, Puppies, Kittens, Beaches, Ice Cream, super heroes, comic books, shopping, pictures of ducks with hats on, deep dish pizza, technology, movie night, how funny it is when your best friend does that thing, how sexy it is when your partner does that thing, cereal, balloons, flowers, video games, getting to walk down the aisle, getting to feed a goose, hugs, cuddling, summer storms, horseback riding, skinny dipping, dancing, bonfires, trips to the lake, the book you haven't written yet, counting the stars in the night sky with someone who thinks you hung them there, traveling the world, traveling to space, traveling back in time, french toast in madrid, breakfast burritos in paris, dressing up like someone you aren't, dressing up like someone you are, music you have never heard, books you have never read, ever single job you could ever do, every online course you could ever take. There are trillions and trillions of reasons to live, and absolutely zero logical ones to die. if you need more reasons to live, message me. -MadiAsaHatter

Mental illness truly is a burden on one's physical, emotional and mental health. It obscures your perception of yourself, others, the world and life in general. A common complaint is "What is the point?"   What is the point of continuing in the dark tunnel when you can't see the light? What's the point of fighting if all you're going to do is wake up and continue fighting? What's the point of living if things are just going to get worse? What is the point. Mental illness blurs your vision and you're no longer able to depict what life used to be like or could be like without the suffering. The illness becomes your entire world, and you lose hope, become unmotivated and most of all unhappy. If there was no bad in the world, what value does the good hold?  Life will always hit a low point, not because of you, not because of your choices or because of your character. No matter who you are or what you've done, there will always be a low point in life - and there most certainly will be very many indeed. But we forget that this is what life is. Life has good and bad. So why do we blame ourselves or other influences when things go wrong? Life will throw everything at you, life will have dips, life will be unfair. But you have the power to change that. See the good in the bad, and you'll soon see a lot less of the bad. It's all about perception and you have the ability to change and shift your universe to what ever you see fit. Live life for the good, bad and the absolutely amazing. The pain only makes you treasure the happiness so much more. And it's the people who have truly suffered who know what happiness truly is. It is the people who had nothing who know what the value of wealth is. It's the people who make mistakes who understand the meaning of success. It's the people who've hit rock bottom, that know how to get to the top. It's the people who were beaten down and wounded that were the strongest ones as they got back up and continued to battle. You are warriors. You are survivors and you are fighting an internal battle.

You should keep living because you haven't found the reason to. Once you do, trust me, you'll never want to leave.

Keep living because you matter. You are worth so much more and suicide is just a permanent solution to a temporary problem.

The depression wants you to die. Stay alive just to spite it. Show it you're in charge and it can't destroy you. Let it drag you kicking and screaming to the end if you must, but don't let it win.

You don't chose life. Life choses you. Just keep going. Everything changes, sometimes imperceptibly, but it does. And you change too. Sometimes imperceptibly. Just keep going. Notice small details. Forget about the big stuff for a while. Give yourself one hour a day when you say, for one hour I will just act and not think. Make an appointment for this time. Set a timer. Take a shower, smell the shampoo feel how nice it is to have clean hair. Eat something simple like an apple very carefully, look at the seeds. Listen to a book. Watch comedy routines on Youtube. Allow yourself to smile or chuckle. After one hour go back to being depressed, or see if maybe just maybe a little more than an hour has passed without a maudlin thought. And think, well look at me! I was all by myself able to stop it for an hour. Be proud of this. It is extremely difficult. Then tomorrow try it again. And the next day. For that "set-aside-my depression-time" try a new thing. doodle a drawing. Iron your clothes, scrub your apartment. Watch motivational videos. Then return to your state of self-loathing ... one day you won't want to. :)

If you end your life, it's full of what if's. you'll never find out if it actually got better, or what else is in store.

Suicide doesn't end the chances of life getting worse, it ends the possibility of it ever getting better

I think a key part of living is hope; realizing it can get better. But, another key part is curiosity. Can you think of one thing you are curious about? The end of a book, the size of this year's pumpkin, what it's like to travel to ___? Having tiny little curiosities can keep you alive for a bit longer. Thinking of people who you care about helps some people. But, if you're struggling to stay alive, I think it's time to see a doctor, counselor, psychiatrist, or call a hotline. There are millions of reasons to keep living. You just have to find one that matters to you, and hold onto it.

Just sit for a moment, with your eyes closed, and listen to your beautiful breath...that is you! No one just like you ever lived, or will ever live again. We are all unique souls, no two of us are the same. So please listen to your breath, it is always there to calm you, to remind you of right now. Because right now is what is important. Every moment we have the ability to turn things around breath by breath. Cherish your breath, cherish your unique self.

well remember that after rain comes sun. In spring every plant and trees came back to life again why? because they survived harsh time. Just remember give it some time.

You could achieve so much in your time spent here. Make people happy, Help the people in need, Find someone special that you could make that luckiest person in the world! They could make you the happiest person in the world as well :)

You should keep living because people care about you. Even if you don't know them. You could have made a massive impact on someone's life and you don't know about it. Stay strong& head up.💜

If you really cannot find anything positive about your own life, move your focus to general things. notice that the sun is shining, birds are singing, the grass is growing. All life is changing, growing and expanding. Just keep your thoughts on these things until you can appreciate something about your own life. just keep appreciating and the feeling of wellbeing will grow.

because you are precious... you are beautiful and you deserve to be happy... and you have been put here for a purpose

Because whilst you may argue that your cloud has no silver lining and only rains, rain makes things grow. And with growth comes hope, and with hope comes happiness

Life is full of a lot of interesting things, from animals, to experiences you haven't yet experienced. Don't give up, because there are so many things are there waiting for you to have them in your life. The things now can change dynamically in a few years, as long as you are willing to see a better life. You'll be okay, the current situation will not last forever.

In my belief (you dont have to take this advice if you don't want to), we keep living to fulfill God's purpose for us. You aren't here by accident. You are created with a purpose. There's hope lying on the cross waiting for you to accept it. Keep on going dear, it's worth it.

because my uncle had his life taken away from him when he was 13, millions of kids each day die with no reason and they don't have a choice. you do, you can turn it around. you have the opportunity to live your life to the full , everyone has bad days, weeks,months . as somebody who has tried to commit suicide more than once my reason to keep going, is that i want ti change the world. also if your under 30, you probably haven't heard the funniest joke you will ever hear, if you are over 30 you have yet to tell the funniest joke you have ever told, so just hold on that little longer because death is final.

Because suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Most suicidal people don't actually want to die, they just can't see a way out of their problems. I have had suicidal urges myself, many times. The thing that stops me is the impact that it would have on my family and friends. Just think of what your death would do to others. There is hope. Things will get better. You've survived all your worst days so far and you are still here. You are strong.

If you give up now, you'll be shown what could've been, and you'll regret making the choice to end your life. It might seem unbearable right now, but it gets better. It'll all be worth it, the good and the bad.

Please seek medical attention if you think of suicide. We are not trained for that. If you are having high thoughts please reach out to a trained medical professional

Live for love. The possibility of experiencing true love or meeting great new friends who can make you laugh so hard your stomach hurts. Doing volunteer work and learning more about the world. Listening to new wonderful music that can touch you deeply. Having children and feeling them wrap their small fingers around your big one. Love, love love! :) it's the most important thing in the world. And you will experience it again.

"Life there is only one, and we must seize it." We have many bad moments that we spend, and we have to think it can be solved. We can get to think and ask yourself "Why I'm living? What good is if all I get is pain?" To this I say, that as you feel bad, you can receive happiness and well . There are good and bad seasons, and unfortunately the bad moments can last quite, but with help can be overcome. Never think it is useless to live, because it isn't. I'm sure you're great, and that whatever happens to you, you get over it. Trust yourself.

There is only one of you in the world; you are incredibly unique, and without you, every person you have walked by in the past, had any type of interaction with (positive or negative), or a relationship with could have had an extremely different perspective and experience with someone else. You matter. You make the world a little more unique with your quirks and strengths. It might seem hard to keep living, but you ARE NOT invisible. Everyone goes through hard times, and even when you suffer, there are people here to help. You need to find your passion - you were put here for a reason and you experience everything for a reason. Going through the motions of life without a reason can be the hardest thing to do. Stick with us though - you are incredible and can do amazing things. Just put your mind to it. Always here if you need to talk.

You need to live because you haven't seen the beauty in the world yet. You need to live because you are important. You need to live because there's so much yet to do. Don't give up if something bad happened to you. There's so much left to do and experience. Live. Don't just exist.

I understand sometimes life can maybe seem pointless or dull, but I'll tell you there are plenty of reasons to keep living, my friend. There are going to be things that you've never even thought of coming your way, and you wouldn't want to miss them. You can spend time with friends and family, watch sunsets, and make someone else's day. There are also people who care for you greatly; your friends, family, and all of us here. It may not be today, or tomorrow, but one day everything is going to be so worth it, and it's all going to be okay. Just keep being strong :)

there are always hard times. every single one of us has that moment. i know you might not believe it, but it will get better.

You live because after life, death and death is worse. You live because as long as there is life, there can still be change. Progress. You live because living is a way of showing those that made you want to die how strong and resilent you are. A boomerang always returns back. You will suffer and be down but you would not stay down. Keep living.

Why keep living, what's the use Wow, we just don't get many questions at all about suicidal thoughts - mainly because if this happens during a chat, we're supposed to refer someone straight away to a suicide hotline, where people have far more training than the minimum that listeners need to start here at 7 Cups . . . But that doesn't answer the question now, does it: The thing is there's 3 parts to this answer: the first part is about how uncomfortable it is to be having doubts about continuing to live, the second is that there may be some signals that your brain is sending to because you're reading this right now, and the third is (of course) the answer to the actual question. Feeling like life is not worth living anymore is a horrible, horrible type of pain, and basically until you've had it yourself, you may have no idea how distressing that sort of despair can be to experience: and even when you've "been there" yourself, doesn't mean that you can say "I know how you feel" to someone else who may be experiencing these types of doubts. Given that I've said that, I know that, if you're reading this question right now because you've been having thoughts like this, it is just about certain that you are in a huge amount of pain, and I want you to give yourself a huge pat on the back for being so brave and putting up with such a nasty feeling so far, and especially for taking the first step to read about what you can do to answer this question. There is an answer to "what's the use", and I promise I'm getting to that . . . One thing that's important to know about thoughts like these is that, especially if they're been coming on for a while, they are very likely a symptom of clinical depression. Now depression can be caused by a plethora of reasons - grief, disability, sickness, loss, physical pain, even a few specific illnesses, like thyroid issues. Depression involves a brain chemistry phenomenon which works sort of like a chicken and egg cycle - it can be debatable which condition originally caused the other. Certain hormones, for example seretonin, can be reduced by depressive thinking (feeling sad and experiencing negative thoughts), and that lack of seretonin can itself, in turn, cause more depressed feelings and thoughts. Psychologists have worked out that negative thoughts cause sad feelings (there are a lot of "der" moments in psychology!!! - psychologists often have the job to prove scientifically that thoughts apply to everyone which people tend to already "know" about themselves ). Those sad feelings and negative thoughts and the seratonin deficiency that was caused (or was caused by) them can also a consequential effect of making the body feel tired and lethargic, which in turn also reduces the seratonin levels further. So if you're having thoughts like this and already feeling tired and listless, or maybe even like staying in bed, chances are really good that your body already has a deficiency of "happy hormones" (like dopamine or serotonin). Even a deficiency of melatonin can start this sort of depression-cycle reaction, so if you have these sort of thoughts it's also a good time to notice whether you've been missing out on enough sunshine (- the skin produces melatonin in the sun - even with sunscreen on - and long winters, especially in polar countries can produce a phenomenon called "seasonal affective disorder," which has been related to melatonin levels). The important thing to know about this is that staying in bed actually means that your seratonin levels are further reduced as a result of lack of sunshine and exercise (which is why so many illnesses can cause depression). In fact during these current times, for many people, the drastic change of missing their usual exercise during the COVID lockdowns is itself causing this same seretonin level drop in many people, which after a while has actually led in turn to the sort of thoughts that lead up to questions like the one above: people who have been stuck working from home don't realise that even for a "low exercise" job, they do a lot more walking and standing up at and on the way to and from their normal workplace, and missing that exercise can trigger a drop in seretonin, which can lead to sad feelings and negative thoughts like this. The good news about this same triangular cycle (negative thoughts > sad feelings > tired / unexercised body > sad feelings > negative thoughts > tired / unexercised body) is that scientists have discovered that this cycle can be broken at any section of the triangle. For instance, even if you start exercising a little bit, even while you're still stuck in your room, it can have a direct effect on relieving sad feelings, both straight away, because you're a bit happier about having taken a proactive step to lower your depression, and after a couple of weeks, when the seratonin levels actually change. Here's some links to some in-bed workouts - the third one is a video: https://www.cosmopolitan.com/health-fitness/how-to/a35234/exercises-you-can-do-without-getting-out-of-bed/; https://www.apartmenttherapy.com/bed-workout-255681; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7gJ9C0nl44. But our body is not all we need to pay attention to if we have thoughts like this of course. There can be other negative thoughts which precede this "edge of despair" sort of thought. If you examine what is running through your head now and then and look for a set of very common thoughts which are nevertheless not really logical or helpful, chances are that one of them has been churning around before the despair started to kick in. We've got lessons on "cognitive restructuring" - how to recognise and challenge these unhelpful thoughts, as well as thinking of more helpful thoughts to replace them with - at https://www.7cups.com/depression-help-online/ as well as the same challenge for unhelpful anxious thoughts at https://www.7cups.com/anxiety-help/ - the lessons are a little mini course, which can sometimes be a bit confronting, so don't worry about taking a break and having a chat about something if the urge strikes you. There is no rush to learn this stuff, in fact it's like chess - it takes a while to put what you learn into practice - but learning cognitive restructuring can really work wonders to cut down the anguish that negative thinking can cause. Remember that once you've learned to recognise and challenge unhelpful thoughts, they are still going to pop up from time to time - that's just how human minds work, so don't be angry or disappointed if you notice that happening. Feelings are signals that mostly come from a different part of the mind than our consciousness - trying to fight feelings can be like trying to hold back the tide. The good part of this analogy is that feelings also come and go, thankfully faster than the tide. It often doesn't seem like it, but even when you're really low with depression, some times are worse than others, and that means that some times are logically better than others. The most desperate and painful times actually come in waves which eventually recede. (Average time for the most intense and painful feelings is 30 - 90 minutes: sometimes what saves you if these waves come is a persian expression that is around 1000 years old, which states "this too shall pass". In my case a really good comedy movie, or anything to distract me from the worst feelings ). Being able to accept painful feelings uses the same skill that is used to accept physical pain, and there is a 7 Cups course that teaches this "ACT" skill, called Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, at https://www.7cups.com/act-therapy-techniques/ that's really worth a look. Now I know I'm telling you a lot about these courses, as if they are more important than they would actually seem, but what most people don't realise is that when people go to the best private mental health clinics, they are paying about $60 -70 000 dollars per month to learn these very same skills. (Of course these clinics also have nurses to help you deal with difficulties and psychiatrists visiting every day, as well as exercise therapists, private psychologist sessions, a GP to check the whole of your body, great food and someone watching to make sure you're safe, but the topics from each of the lessons on these courses are the same topics for inpatient group sessions which psychologists also teach - I'm not saying that doing these courses is better or even the same as going to a private hospital, but for many people these hospitals just aren't an option). The skills on these courses all take practise and a fair bit of self-exploration and growth, which in itself can cause growing pains, but if you're aleady having thoughts like this then you're already quite likely aware of massive psychological pain. If you're in Australia, the good news is that where most private health insurance takes 12 months of payments to kick in, mental health hospital cover only takes 2 months before you can claim - so if you're already feeling like this, and you think you can hang tough for a couple of months, its definitely time to make your first private health insurance payment right now. This is about $200 - $300 in Australia, and worth every cent. Many public hospitals in Australia are vastly overcrowded, have involuntary patients, who can be scary, disturbing and dangerous, very few (if any) of these lessons, nurses who are overburdened, and a medical model, which means they will put you on drugs which may or may not be the right ones at the time - the psychiatrists there are just as overworked as everyone else, and you can be prescribed medication before you even get to meet the doctor. Of course there are some really great public hospitals specialising in mental health in the capital cities, but for the most part in Australia, unless you just happen to live in the right suburb to be sent to those specialist hospitals, public mental health inpatients are all lumped together in a ward that's just a part of the local general hospital, which has no training, little activites and is a very depressing place to be - as if you needed that to deal with as well. The reason I'm talking about hospital is that with thoughts like "Why keep living, what's the use," you're already down to a 3 or a 4, and you should be thinking about hospital for certain if you reach a 2 - 3. Depression/happiness is measured on a subjective scale of 1 to 10, and 10 is mania, which is no good, because even though mania can feel fantastic, feeling like you're 10 feet tall and bulletproof, or like you're a spiritual messenger from God, this state can lead to really bad decisions, where you make a fool of yourself, put yourself in unnecessary danger or spend all the money that you've ever had as well as get yourself into a mass of debt. So lets say that feeling relatively calm, content and mellow and neither happy or sad is a 7 - that's a great place to coast, and 8 or 9 without any particular external event to justify that sort of jubilation, like winning the lotto, acheiving an important goal, being on a fantastic cruise or getting married is also a signal that there's something to worry about, and it's time to check out your mental health with a doctor. As soon as you've been starting to feel sad or negative, you've been hitting numbers below 6.9 and now that you're down to contemplating whether it's worth it at all, you've definitely made it down to at least as low as a 4. At below 4 it gets to feeling inclined towards suicide, or having "ideations" of suicide, where you imagine doing it, and at below 3 you're starting to make plans about how you'll do it, at 2 you're starting to get together the tools, and below 2 you're making attempts. So obviously a good time for the turning point is now. Right now at 4 is a good time to hit your GP up for some seratonin / dopamine adjusting medications (or melatonin replacements, which need a liver test done before starting a course, because they can have side effects which lead to reactions in the liver). These hormone-adjustment medications take 2 - 4 weeks to take effect, and you might need a temporary mood stabiliser in the meantime to take away the painful nature of thoughts and feelings that you've been so brave to endure. I know it doesn't feel all that great to take pills for your mind, but you've put up already with all this psychological pain, and no one deserves at all to feel so much psychological pain that they start to say "Why keep living." If you had caught this at the "I don't seem to be able to get a break" stage, it would maybe have been reasonably safe to get away with just exercise and learning some issues to deal with "stuff", but now it's got to a stage where that amount of psychological pain might get in the way of being able to even concentrate enough to be able to learn the skills you need. You don't deserve this pain, and if you can't afford a lovely private mental health clinic, it's still worth getting a prescription to get some relief, if only just while you're "on the mend." There's one more important skill that I want to introduce you to, and that's dialetic behavioural therapy, most importantly the part where you get back to knowing and liking yourself, by identifying your favourite values, and by doing positive activites as if they were medicinal measures - medicinal painting; medicinal music; medicinal yoga; medicinal . . . whatever normally makes you happy. Because you've already got yourself down to a 4, these positive activites might not feel like they're as much fun as they usually do (at least straight away), but you're also used to coasting at around 6 - 7, so they have to make up for starting from a few steps behind the start-line. The 7 Cups course on "managing emotions" at https://www.7cups.com/help-managing-emotions/ has a great list of positive activities to "prescribe" for yourself, and these will help get you on the mend and on the way back. Maybe you can schedule yourself for two or three of these per week at the same time as you get started on some medication to help you through the toughest times - don't worry, starting on medication does not mean that you will be stuck with taking pills for life - most people are okay after they turn the corner and get back out of the "beyond blue" stage. One thing to note, during the time before the effects of hormone balancing medication, exercise, cognitive restructuring, act, dialetic therapy and positive activities kick in, is that there are actually times when things get easier, and even when you have a chuckle or two: the depression will fool you that every day is always hard all day and nothing has been funny at all - it's important to really stop and take specific notice during this period if something good happens or occurs to you, because the depression can trick you into forgetting something good has happened at all. Lastly, like I promised, here is what "the use" is - the reason why it is worth all this nasty distress and pain: you ARE special, utterly unique and the world needs you and has a plan for you. I KNOW this for a fact, because if this fact didn't exist for you, then it sure wouldn't exist for me - I don't deserve this reason to exist any more or less than anyone else, even if some people seem to have more reason to exist than me. The only reason that anyone else in the world is special is because you personally (yes you!) are special, and always have been. The proof of this is that you and I are alive. Right now, the depression is in the way and blocking you from seeing that, but there is a specific reason for you to be alive, and something coming up in the future that you're here to see or be a part of, and which might not even happen if you're not here. There is a light at the end of this tunnel, and you don't have to know exactly what that light will reveal to justify toughing it out and taking the steps to make it back into the sunshine. When you've made it through, or started to make it through, drop me a line - I'd love to hear from you. Thanks for reading this and thanks for contemplating that there is a "use", a reason and a really good chance for you to come back out of this darkness. Welcome to the road to recovery . . . take care, and don't forget we at 7 Cups are here for a chat, and you don't deserve or need to do this recovery alone. All the listeners at 7 Cups are forward to hearing from you, all day, and any time.